73: Reselling Revolution: Weighing the Benefits and Drawbacks of Garage Sales (Replay)

Let’s talk about garage sales!  Garage sales can be a great option for decluttering and making some extra money.  But how do you make them successful? We covered tips on how to get people to come to your sale, how to make the most of the sale, and alternative ways to sell your items if your garage sale doesn't go as planned.

(Original Episode 22 Air Date: June 19, 2023)

In this episode we talk about:

  • Pros & Cons of garage sales
  • What to consider when hosting a garage sale
  • How does the reselling market impact garage sales?
  • Are Garage Sales right for you in your organizing journey?
  • How can you turn a poorly attended garage sale into a positive experience?

Mentioned in this Episode:

Episode 039: Should You Keep it, Repair it or Throw It Way?

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/27-step-6-evaluate-step-back-evaluate-your-organizing-system

Episode 006: Should You Do-it-Yourself or Outsource It?

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/6-should-you-do-it-yourself-or-outsource-it

Blog: Virtual Sell/Buy Marketplaces Blog Post 

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/virtual-sell-buy-marketplaces

Think your community or group of friends could benefit from a Community Garage Sale?

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Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:00:00]:
This week, we've got something a little different that we haven't done before. We have not had any repeats since the beginning of this podcast back in January of 2023. We've had 72 amazing episodes that are unique and each have been new every single Monday. This week, though, I am, for the first time, bringing an oldie and a goodie from last summer because we are talking about garage sales during this time of the year. And the garage sale, rummage sale, upcycling market has grown, but there's also quite a bit of hesitation from buyers to buy and. And we are in a moment in time where there is a lot of people that are retiring, downsizing, trying to get rid of their stuff, and it hurts my heart. And I see the numbers, and I see the data that is coming out as to how much stuff will end up in the landfill. So I am on a bit of a mission to just give people the awareness that there's a lot of really good stuff out there for you to buy and that you can you don't have to buy everything used.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:01:11]:
And many times, people that sell their stuff is in perfect condition. They just never used it. They're just looking for new homes. So I am on on a little bit of a mission right now to help the sandwich generation, those people that are responsible for multiple generations, above them, below them, younger, older, to help them realize that there are other ways to get rid of your stuff outside of just throwing it all away immediately. That might be the answer ultimately, especially for those of us and those of you who have a lot of stuff. Right? And you you're under a very specific time frame. You need to get, a solution for all this stuff. So I get that.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:01:52]:
Sometimes that's just the way it has to be. But there is also going to be the problem of spending money to store it. So I'm trying to give solutions to this generation, to the people who are requiring a lot of stuff and letting them know that, hey. There are events like a garage sale, like a rummage sale The could be of benefit to you and help you find additional value in The stuff that you have. So we are doing a recap or rerun of last year's episode because it is a a classic. One thing that I would like to highlight that I didn't talk about as much in this episode was the virtual resale market. We will have a separate conversation about that, but what I would like to add for this year is that when we talk about garage sales, don't forget that this also means the virtual version of a garage sale or a rummage sale. So you can host and on different apps like Poshmark right now, in 2024.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:02:56]:
It's still very relevant. Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, thredUP, you got a whole number of them, which I will put in the show notes. And that also applies to the garage sale concept. It's just the virtual, you know, cousin of it. So, don't forget, you also have these tips will be able to be applicable to the virtual version of a garage sale. Alright. Without delaying it, here we go. Here's the original episode from last year on the benefits and drawbacks of hosting a garage sale.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:03:30]:
Enjoy. Welcome to the Organized and productive podcast with The Organized Flamingo. I am your host, Stephanie, a professional organizer and productivity expert. Ready to explore the right organizing and productivity solutions for you? Yeah? Well, then let's go. Be honest. What do you think about garage sales? Do they make you cringe? Do you get excited when you go and wake up early and head to a garage sale weekend? Like, how do you feel about them? The reason I'm asking you this question is because I know in the last couple of years, garage sales in the reselling market has gotten kind of a bad rep. There has been a lot of innovation around reselling apps and resell marketplaces, which I love. But as a whole and as a society, whenever I talk about garage sales, I usually get a little bit of a cringe effect or factor or commentary.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:04:30]:
Now you all know that I'm all about the and, so I have not officially made a survey or compiled any official information about how people feel about garage sales, but this has been my own take being in the industry where when I talk to a client and I say, hey. Maybe you're a good candidate to host a garage sale. I and of get this little pushback of, oh, I don't know. Oh, it sounds like a lot of work. Nobody wants my trash, and I get that kind of feeling. Now I'm assuming that there will be a couple of you who were attracted to this episode because you are garage sale pros, and you know your stuff. So, obviously, I'm not talking necessarily to you, but I hope you will stick around because we are going to talk about some tips and some observations that I have seen being in the organizing world that hopefully will help you as well. But as a whole, as a society, I think especially here in the US, we just don't really have a very positive connotation to garage sales.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:05:31]:
It's usually the people are getting rid of their stuff because they're downsizing, and it's looked upon as it's somebody else's trash. And it's not always the case. And so we're going to talk about the pros and the cons. We're going to talk about my observations of what I have seen, some of the successful garage sales that I have been a part of and that I put together, and give you some tips for you to consider if maybe garage selling is the right avenue for you in your organizing journey. Okay. So let's get started with a little bit of the garage sale 101 and what it is. A garage sale is in this terminology, we're talking about the reselling of items that you already possess. So they could be brand new items you're reselling.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:06:15]:
Maybe you never used The, or they could be used and you are now, you know, getting rid of them for whatever reason. So this is a sale that you have personally put together. This is not like a company, brick and mortar. This isn't a store. This is a personal reselling of items in your possession. So if you're interested in the history of where garage and yard sales came about, it's a term that we use here, especially in the US, where you hold, like I said, those sales, the the privacy of your own home, your garage, if you will, something that came about in in the 19 around The 19 seventies where garages, were starting to be more popularized and you could like The sixties, seventies, and you would host the sales in your yard. Before that, they were called rummage sales, and those were mostly held by charities, churches, and groups like that that would then sell the items to benefit their association or their nonprofit. And even prior to that, there is some history, which we can dive into in on another episode, but there's some history there with it being a nautical term from ramage, which was the cargo that was packed into the hold of a ship.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:07:26]:
And the rummage sales at that time were held at the docks, and the cargo that was unclaimed or damaged would then be sold at a discounted rate. And they were that was The rummage. And then from there, it just became the garage sale. So one thing led to another. So it's a little bit of a fun history for you and for you history buffs. And I also wanted to shed light on The history of it because as most anything, things have evolved. But this one in particular, this type of sale really has stuck to its roots. Right? It's things that are no longer needed, wanted, that are being sold for the for a fraction of their their original price.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:08:04]:
And that's the beauty of this type of sale. The seller is getting rid of items that are no longer used to them, and the buyer feels like they're getting a good deal. And in today's age, that we're keeping items out of the landfill, so it's a win win when you host these types of sales. Now there's cons to it, and I'm not saying that a garage sale is for everyone, which we will explain some of the pros and cons, who is a right fit for this type of event. But as a whole, it's supposed to be a win win for all parties. And the reason I am a big fan of this type of sale in an organizing journey is because there is that win win factor. It is an emotional win for the seller knowing that the items are going to a new home where the item will actually be used. Many of our clients, especially if you, are more you have more hoarding tendencies and you're emotionally attached to items, you can't let go of something or the items that are accumulated in your home, in your household, in your space because there is this fear that you didn't get to use it or that it was a waste of time or money or effort purchasing the item.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:09:18]:
Or if it is an emotional, maybe family heirloom, that you are breaking the tradition of keeping that item alive and there's a lot of guilt associated with it. So to relieve that guilt a little bit, when you know that it's going to a good home and for someone that actually will be using it, it becomes a win for you, the seller, or the person who will be selling the item. And that contributes to long lasting organizing and long lasting decluttering habits because it gives you that really good feeling. Now on the other end, for the seller, they, of course, feel like it's a win because they got something that was much better priced. They know they're keeping it and out of the landfill. And so it just becomes a really good understanding between the parties that it was a good day to buy the item and then, you know, to buy and sell. So it's a win win. So let's talk about the pros of having a garage sale.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:10:15]:
So I already talked about the emotional pro, which is finding a better home, the next home for the item. But this is a great opportunity to declutter and organize your living space. It allows you to go through your space, open boxes maybe that you have not opened in a really long time. So it gives you that chance to declutter and organize. The other is it gives you a chance to make some extra money by selling the items that you no longer need and are taking up space. Now what kind of money you will get for the item will vary on what you're trying to sell. I have a whole blog post, which I will link into the show notes, and you can, also download our checklist on how to, have a successful garage sale. So in in one of those, points on that list and in the blog post talks about, yes, making extra money, but also being realistic about what you're selling, getting some second opinions, asking friends, going online and seeing what something is worth.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:11:11]:
Because just because something, even if it's a brand new item and you bought it for a $100 and you think that you you know, it's never been used, it's brand new, the person who is buying it does not have the same emotional attachment to that item. So what you are going to make on that item is probably not what you think you will, so just be smart about that. But you will make some extra money, and that item sitting in your basement or your closet is probably not making you any money. So, you know, this is one of the other pros. Big disclaimer here. We are not talking about, collectibles or valuables. Some of you are professional collectible, collectors or people that know what something is worth. And if that's you, then you understand that, you know, you're storing it for the long term, value.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:12:01]:
So that's a whole that's a whole another episode. This is just talking about everyday items. Some of the other added benefits, which for some of you, you may like, except for some of you, you may not, and there is a way around it. But I think it's a pro, and that's the engagement with the local community and the potential to meet new people. A garage sale is a great way for you to meet your neighbors. And maybe even if you're not social, this could be a really good opportunity to hear you know, see get some recommendations on where to donate things. Where can I sell this? Is there a better place? Maybe someone will tell somebody that you have a thing that they needed. So that engagement really helps you get rid of your stuff and find new homes for your things.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:12:43]:
Now this is my favorite, this next pro, and that's the sustainable practice of recycling and reusing items rather than throwing them away. I this is my favorite. This is very close to my heart. I host an annual community garage sale here in my neighborhood. I've actually have done garage sales for many, many years. I've also done them for clients, but this is one of the number one reasons why I love doing The. And it's finding new homes for things that may have ended up in the landfill. And like I said, it's a win win.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:13:13]:
People feel like they're getting a good deal. And to me, it just it's my way of contributing to the keeping items away from just laying in landfills forever and ever when I know sometimes The can go to better homes. This next tip is not for everyone, but I added it as a pro because I know some of you get a thrill out of this. I will say that I am not one of these people. So if you are listening to this next tip and you're like, nope. That's not me. I hear you because I feel the same. But it's the process in getting that in getting the thrill of negotiating and negotiating prices.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:13:53]:
I know some of you live for this, especially as a buyer, if you enjoy going to garage sales and that thrill of getting a good bargain. Oh my gosh. I know that that goes a long way. So if you enjoy that piece of it, you know, somebody's saying, I'll give you $2 for it, and you say a dollar. And then you meet in the middle for a dollar 50, and you think that that's a win because you thought you were going to get 50¢ out of it, and that's, like, a win for everybody. I get it. So I did add it as a pro because I know a lot of you really enjoy that part. And if you've never done a garage sale before, try it out and see if you like it.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:14:29]:
You know? And if you don't, then there's plenty of tips, that I talk about over on the blog pay on the blog post that I mentioned earlier that will be in the show notes. But you don't necessarily have to negotiate. You can put up a sign that says every you know, it's nonnegotiable. You can put price tags on things, and you can just let people know The is what it is. Now there is a little bit of a subculture and a understanding that in garage sales and flea markets and things like that, in the resale market in general, that there is room for a bargain or just to, you know, offer another price. So just know that there's a little bit of that norm, but you certainly don't have to say yes. And you can absolutely put in your ads and in your signs and in your pricing that it's nonnegotiable. Okay.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:15:14]:
So now let's switch over to the cons of having and hosting a garage sale. Now these aren't necessarily negative things, but just things for you to consider. So I added them as a con because they're important to note and that this one of these cons may be the reason that a garage sale may not be right for you. Okay. So one of them is the time, the most important. It's the time and the effort involved in planning, organizing, and promoting this this type of sale. Like I mentioned earlier, I have hosted community garage sales, which, also, if you're interested in having something like that, I do have resources for you down in the show notes. But if you're having and individual, like a personal, garage sale, it still takes some time and effort.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:15:58]:
Right? You have to plan a little bit. You have to plan a date, set time for that date. And once you announce that date, because people need to know that you're having and, then you, you know, you're basically committing yourself to that that time, that date that you told people that you were going to be there. And in addition to that, then there's a little bit of a planning. Even if you're not a planner and you're just more of a fly by the seat of your pants type of person, you just grab and sell, there's still a little bit of planning because you you just you know, you have to go grab The stuff and take it out, and, you know, and put it up on tables or or just on your driveway or wherever area of your in front of your house. So there's a bit of time and effort involved, and that is something that only you know if you have time and the ability for. We recorded an episode here that could help you, where we talk about things to consider when you're outsourcing. So should you do it yourself, or should you outsource it? And that is a great episode if you're contemplating if doing this type of, like, a garage sale is right for you.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:17:02]:
I'll put that in the show notes as well. The next one is all about the weather, something that you really just can't help. I put it as a con because it makes people nervous, not knowing what will happen. Like, you know, finding that perfect date that's, like, the most beautiful weather, not too hot, not too cold. But it's a it's not under your control. And you can plan as much as possible, knowing that, you know, wherever you live, maybe you know your weather patterns and you know that it's just better to have it in June, maybe to have it in August, whatever it may be. Only you know The. But just know that if the weather is not great, you do need to make alternative arrangements, especially if you're you did a lot of preplanning, like advertisement, like, you set up your tables ahead of The, and you did all of that.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:17:48]:
Like I said, I do have a list of all, like, how to have a really good successful, garage sale, and it talks about the preplanning process. So there's effort involved in that. And if you get rained out or something to that effect, well, now you have to make some plans for another date. And if that makes you a little bit nervous, then or you have to have the garage sale that weekend because you're moving the weekend after, then that is something that, you may not love and something that you just need to consider. The next one is about an emotional con, and this is a tip that I just I give and that I wanted to talk about because this could happen, especially if you've never done a garage sale before. And that's the possible disappointment if items don't sell or they don't get the price that you want. So that is a con. If you're an emotionally attached person, that may surprise you that when somebody tells you they'll give you, you know, a dollar for it and you bought it for a $100 or it's a family heirloom and you could potentially feel almost whether embarrassed and or you may get defensive over it, then a garage sale may not be right for you because people there are trying to get a bargain.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:19:05]:
And it's not personal to you, but you may feel that way. So if you're in a sensitive, emotional place, a garage sale may not be right for you right now or for those items that you feel very emotionally connected to because, well, you know, the people that are trying to buy it are in a different place. They don't feel your emotions. So that's another con for you to think about. I feel like this one can be worked around as long as you prepare yourself that that may happen, but I also understand that many of you have items that would be very difficult or you would find offensive if somebody offered you much less than what you thought you were going to. So, you know, keep that in mind. The last tip is all about getting people to come to your garage sale and potentially having the disappointment of not having enough people come to your sale. So that's not even about that you can't even sell things.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:19:58]:
This is about people are not even coming or stopping by, and especially if you're not in a highly visible place or corner or house or area, then if you don't have a good strategy of getting people to come to the sale, then they won't even be able to buy because they don't even know you're there. And so that could be a con. If you don't have a good strategy on, advertising for this or a good reach, then or a good reach of somehow, whether it's through your social media The you're if you feel uncomfortable about posting or you don't know how to do it, that may be a con for you. Because if not enough people, not not enough traffic comes through your sale, through your garage sale, then there's no way that they know that you're even there, and that might be disappointing. Now I do have some tips in that blog post that I just talked about about trying to avoid that piece. Because so I don't necessarily think it's a con as long as you're prepare prepared. If during your sale you find your if you did not go do a good enough job advertising or you just didn't have the time or or, honestly, it was just a bad day and people are not walking by your neighborhood and therefore not seeing your sale, there's a couple of alternatives, that you have and that you can turn this event into a positive because you can just take pictures of the stuff that's out there already and post them on online social media platforms, marketplaces like Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace and and Poshmark. I have a whole list of online resellers that you can post it to.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:21:31]:
So even if that becomes the downside of you having the garage sale and and you just don't get enough traffic, use it as a moment of exposure because everything's probably out in the sunshine. Right? Outside. Good lighting. Just take pictures and post them on social media, like I said, all these other marketplaces, and still get some good usage of the time that it took for you to put this together. So that could definitely be turned around if you have, if you're a little bit prepared. So to end our episode today, I wanted to share some feedback that I received from a neighbor. She was one of the participants in our community garage sale this year, and it was just really heartwarming to me, what she said. So let me let me read it to you.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:22:18]:
For our first and last garage sale, it was so great. Now in parentheses here, I just got to share with you. They are moving to their forever home. So in theory, this would be their last garage sale. And they had never hosted The before, so last in first. Then she continues, enjoyed meeting neighbors we never knew. Everything is gone. Planned to make a run to the local charity, but gave everything away at the garage sale.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:22:47]:
So many happy faces. We love that some of our treasures found new homes and a new life. Hope the community continues The tradition. And for the sake of our landfills, this was a great idea. Great lesson to teach the next generation. Hugs. Thank you for listening to the Organized and Productive podcast with The Organized Flamingo. If you enjoyed today's episode, I would love it if you leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast player.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:23:15]:
It helps with letting people know that we're here. For full show notes and resources, head on over to the Organized flamingo.com/ podcast. Happy organizing.

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72: Organizing Tips for the Sandwich Generation (Part 2)

This week we get into Part 2 of the “Sandwich Generation” discussion. We are sharing practical tips for navigating the challenges of caring for both children and aging parents, or those in similar roles. This episode focuses on the options you have when handling these inherited items.  Tune in to explore these tips and gain clarity on managing this complex aspect of life.

In this episode we talk about:

  • Explanation of the different “sandwiches” within the sandwich generation
  • Tips for managing inherited items with pros and cons
  • The emotional aspect of selling & donating

Mentioned in this Episode:

Episode 071: Organizing Tips for the Sandwich Generation: Part 1

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/71-organizing-tips-for-the-sandwich-generation-part-1

The Organized & Productive podcast is brought to you by The Organized Flamingo and hosted by Stephanie Y. Deininger! For those of you who love the thought of organizing & being more productive, but don’t know where to start or constantly up against hurdles that don’t let you advance the way you want to, this podcast is for you!

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70: How Professional Organizers Are Reshaping Modern Living

This week we talk about the evolving professional organizing industry with Dr. Carrie Lane, an expert in the field of American Studies and the changing nature of work in the United States. Dr. Lane shares her insights into the professional organizing industry, shedding light on why more individuals are turning to organizers to manage their belongings, homes, and workspaces in our modern society. Through her extensive research and teaching experience, Dr. Lane explores the factors driving the rise of professional organizers and offers valuable perspectives on how they are reshaping our approach to organization and productivity.

In this episode we talk about:

  • Reasons individuals seek the assistance of professional organizers
  • How pro organizing services can best support individuals in managing their time and space
  • The evolution of pro organizers in the United States

Mentioned in this Episode:

Book: “More Than Pretty Boxes: How the Rise of Professional Organizing Shows Us the Way We Work Isn't Working” by Dr. Carrie Lane.. Chicago, IL: Chicago University Press, 2024.

https://amzn.to/4dhFW65

Learn more about Dr. Lane:

Web: https://amst.fullerton.edu/faculty/c_lane.aspx

Dr. Carrie Lane is a Professor of American Studies at California State University, Fullerton, where she studies the changing nature of work in the United States. Professor Lane is especially interested in the ways Americans go about trying to simply and improve their lives in the face of overwork and overwhelm. She earned her PhD in American Studies from Yale University and a BA in Anthropology and Women's Studies from Princeton University. Her new book, More Than Pretty Boxes: How the Rise of Professional Organizing Shows Us the Way We Work Isn't Working, comes out with University of Chicago Press in fall 2024. She lives with her family in Los Angeles.

The Organized & Productive podcast is brought to you by The Organized Flamingo and hosted by Stephanie Y. Deininger! For those of you who love the thought of organizing & being more productive, but don’t know where to start or constantly up against hurdles that don’t let you advance the way you want to, this podcast is for you!

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69: Sustainable Success One Small Habit at a Time with Julie DeLucca-Collins

In this episode, Julie DeLucca-Collins, TEDx speaker, business coach, and bestselling author, shares her expertise on habits and their significance in personal and professional growth. Drawing from her experience as a certified Tiny Habits coach, Julie provides actionable insights on implementing small changes for lasting impact. With a track record of empowering women in entrepreneurship and holistic coaching, Julie's dynamic approach to habit formation offers listeners practical strategies for achieving success in all aspects of life.

In this episode we talk about:

  • What is a habit exactly and how it relates to our everyday success
  • Habit creation and how to track it and  should you?
  • Examples of tiny habits and their impact

Mentioned in this Episode:

Book: “The Gap and The Gain: The High Achievers' Guide to Happiness, Confidence, and Success” by Dan Sullivan and Dr. Benjamin Hardy https://amzn.to/4aWLtxq

Book: “Be Your Future Self Now: The Science of Intentional Transformation by Dr. Benjamin Hardy” https://amzn.to/3Qp7Cw8

Learn more about Julie::

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julie_deluccacollins/

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The Organized & Productive podcast is brought to you by The Organized Flamingo and hosted by Stephanie Y. Deininger! For those of you who love the thought of organizing & being more productive, but don’t know where to start or constantly up against hurdles that don’t let you advance the way you want to, this podcast is for you!

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68: Road Trip! Easy Organization in Cars, Small Spaces and RVs

Let’s go on a road trip! This week we are sharing organizing tips for those long car rides. Whether you're planning a road trip with friends or a family vacation, we've got you covered. From pre-trip planning to packing and post-trip organization, we'll guide you through each phase with expert advice and personal experiences. Get ready for tips on creating checklists, optimizing space with packing cubes and compression bags, and making the most of pit stops. So, buckle up and get ready to turn that road trip into a well-organized and enjoyable adventure!

In this episode we talk about:

  • Planning for a Road Trip
  • Packing Tips for a Road Trip
  • Post-Trip Organization

Mentioned in this Episode:

Episode 004: A New Decluttering Mindset: Seasonal Decluttering

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/4-a-new-decluttering-mindset-seasonal-decluttering

Picking the right packing cubes informative Instagram post:

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The Organized & Productive podcast is brought to you by The Organized Flamingo and hosted by Stephanie Y. Deininger! For those of you who love the thought of organizing & being more productive, but don’t know where to start or constantly up against hurdles that don’t let you advance the way you want to, this podcast is for you!

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Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:00:00]:
Beep beep. We are going on an adventure, so buckle up, and let's hit the road, shall we? On today's episode, we are talking organizing tips when you're on the go, but on the road. So most more specifically on the road, not so much the airplanes or trains or other means of transportation. Today, we are tackling what happens when you're on a long car ride, like maybe a road trip, whether you like it or not, you know, does that's besides the point. This is just, Hey, I'm going to be in the car for a really long time. How can I manage the mental and physical clutter that surrounds a space that can be quite small? We are going to tackle RV organizing within the subject matter, but really The main focus today is when you're in a, like a tighter space that is going, coming and going like transient, like a car. Okay. So that is why today's episode kind of encompasses all of those.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:00:58]:
Everybody travels a little bit differently in different road, ways, you know, and and so I kind of kept that that piece open. So I'm so excited because this is one of my most favorite means of transportation for trips, and, so, you know, a lot of the tips that I give you are surrounded by my expertise or are based off of my expertise, what I have seen, what I have studied. But this one is also and add in addition to all those things, it's also what I like to do. So I can give you some of that personal experience, about how to not get overwhelmed when you're in very tight spaces, on the road, so and how to get organized, declutter, how to feel and enjoy the trip as much as possible and not have to worry about the, overwhelm that is surrounding you. So let's get to it, with a couple of our tips. Welcome to the Organized and Productive podcast with The Organized Flamingo. I am your host, Stephanie, a professional organizer and productivity expert. Ready to explore the right organizing and productivity solutions for you? Yeah? Well The, let's go.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:02:10]:
If you are new to the podcast, welcome. I'm so glad that you're here. If you're not new to the podcast, you're very familiar with our style here. So what we do is, I like to give you a almost like a table of content so that you know what's coming in the podcast episode today. We have different types of episodes where some of them are, like, short straight to the point, let's get you, you know, get going into action with your decluttering or organizing or managing of your stuff. Then we have podcast episodes that are with guests, and those have a little bit more of a a different feel and interview, q and a. And then there's episodes like today's episode where I'm going to give you and, so The and phases of a a typical road trip. And then within each phase, I'll give you some of my favorite trips tips for the trip.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:03:01]:
So that's kind of the table of contents for today, and each of these are meant for you to just think about how you do these things. So, the and phases are they're not like an official phases The way that we we have, like, our 7 steps of organizing almost anything framework. Like, that has been tried and trued. This is just more The 7 phases that normally and, so you will find yourself maybe grouping some of these tips into 1 because it may apply to you, may might not apply to you. Some of these tips might be, you might be able to combine into 1, you know, etcetera, etcetera. So that's why it's a very loose table of contents today with 7 sections, and I'll so what I'm gonna do is I'm going to guide you through the different fit like, when you go from the preparing moment to then when upon arrival, to your destination and then on your way back. So that's kind of the the framework for today. So let's get into the first couple of phases.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:04:01]:
So The and phases of a trip, and, you know, feel free, again, to combine some of these into your own, but the first one is planning for the trip. So this is just the, the concept, like you, you have been alerted that you're going on this trip or you want to go on this trip and you're planning the whole thing. And so that's like the plan, like, okay, we are going to go. Let's look at dates. Let's look at what route. Let's look where we're going. So that's like the very planning. You have not purchased anything.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:04:29]:
You have not packed anything. This is just the the pre game planning. After that, number 2 is the getting ready and or packing. So this can be in phases. So this is the lead lead up. So you've already planned your destination, you know where you're going or the areas that you will be going. You have your vehicle or the, transportation method all booked. So you you kind of already have the logistics piece all booked and ready to go, and now you are on to actually planning with knowing where you're going.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:05:04]:
Then you got the 3rd section, which is the day before or right before you get on the road. So this is, like, you know, 24, maybe 48 hours before you head on over. You're starting to actually, put all the packages and all of your suitcases or boxes all into the vehicle. And then you've got your on the road, like, okay, this is when you're on the actual road, you're ready to go, you turned on the keys, you're on your way, And you've got the middle of the trip. So this could be the halfway point where you either arrived at your destination or somewhere in the middle, like, just kind of the in between. And then you've got, your way back, so the the trip, when you're back, like, when you've come back to your original destination. Assuming you are coming back, which I'll talk about if you're not, if this is more of, like, a from starting to end, but you are not. It's not a round trip, you're not coming back to your destination.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:05:58]:
We'll talk about that. And then the after tips for when you are done with your trip. Planning your trip. This part is just as important and and should be just as fun as the entire adventure. If you're one of those people that really just likes to get on the road and go and the whole planning piece feels boring, overwhelming, too thought out, I get it. I really, really do, but being prepared or having a little bit of preparation even before even if it's, like, a couple of days before will go a long way for many reasons, and especially if you are going to very rural places, places that don't offer services, like, The usual services you're used The, a little planning is going to take you a long way and make you feel like you've got you've you have some control of your trip. If you're going on an on an adventure where you don't want any control, you know, The is a different conversation. Here's the thing about checklist.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:07:03]:
Checklists don't have to be this big, Here's the thing about checklists. Checklists don't have to be this big, cumbersome, Harvard law type of note taking, type of format. Okay, these are checklists can serve a lot of purposes, but for the purposes of planning a trip, a checklist is a way for you to start jotting down and brainstorming things that you've been thinking about, so that you don't later forget, really, that, you know, that's a checklist, a check, like a list that checks yourself. So, make it as simple as possible. If you need a template, then just head on over to our website or down in the show notes, but, basically, just the notes section on your phone is perfect, and this is where you you are going to start jotting down the location, places that you've already checked. Because what happens during the planning piece in in your road trip is that you might need to remember or remind yourself if you did something already. Like, oh, you know, I talked to the representative on this day, or I did look into this place. When I looked into it, I remember this because you will have jotted it down on your on your checklist.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:08:17]:
So I'm a big proponent of checklist. And and, again, they don't have to be a big, big to do. It can just be almost like a journaling type of checklist where you just jot down all of the actions that you're taking for this trip's planning session. Okay. On to the and tip within the planning of the trip, you know, figuring out where you're going, the temperature, what is, what does it look like as far as, culture, all the things that you need to know ahead of time because this will prepare you for what you need to buy, what you need to pack, and all those things. That will go into your checklist. Right. So they all kind of work together.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:08:55]:
But one of the biggest tips that I have under this section is think about items that serve multiple multiple functions or multiple purposes because when you're in very small quarters, like a car, all that for a very long period of time or or or an RV, a smaller RV, not necessarily the house, you know, class a type, and you mean Class A, right? There's just certain amount of storage that you have, etcetera. So anyway, but because you will be in smaller spaces, you really want to have items that serve multiple purposes, including your clothing, including, the stuff, everything from, the dishes. If you're going to be camping, if you're gonna be staying out there, like, everything, think of more than one reason or where for the item so that you can save on space and also the upkeep, because if you're in a road trip or very long, trips, you are probably not really stopping or doing laundry very often The way that you would probably at home. So multi usage, multifunctional is the name of the game. It will save you space and time. One last thing here during the planning phase, it's somewhere on your checklist. Just write down these questions. Do you want to have a special playlist, podcast, audio books, maybe movies, if you know, or any entertainment type.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:10:20]:
Write it down so you it could be on your to do list to download at some point. It doesn't have to be right now because who knows when your trip is coming up. But when you put it on your checklist, it'll allow you to remember to do those things and connect to Wi Fi, you know, make sure that you have all those things done. So this is actually taking us to the next tip of this, of when you're planning, just put on your checklist, will I need connection? Hey. I'm all about going and getting lost and not being connected all the time, especially on the road, But depending on what kind of trip you're taking, and you might need to be connected. If you're working, if you need to stay in touch with other family or friends or whatever it may be, you might need that. So make it a point to be at least aware of the places you're going and if they will have Wi Fi or Internet or access to whatever it is you may need. So those are the types of things that you wanna be putting on your checklist.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:11:16]:
So, anyway, get a checklist, start thinking about the things that you need for the location you're going and make it as much multifunctional as possible and start writing down the things that you don't want to forget as your timeline moves on. Alright. So, for the next phase, and and third phases of getting ready and packing, and then the day before you get on the road, I'm going to put my pro organizer hat right here, like, very heavily on, and it's all about decluttering before the trip. So, you've already you know, you're you've planned, you've done your checklist and everything. Now it's, okay, let me get all the stuff that I need from the areas that I need, my storage, my closet, my garage, wherever the items are, you're taking them out now so that you can start packing them and putting them in the car or the vehicle, whatever it may be. So this is a part a really good opportunity for you to declutter. This is a part where you start looking at things that may be broken, you're not using. It's it's time to just let them go.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:12:14]:
Throw them away. Give them away. Sell them, because they're already out. And as I talk about in our seasonal organizing podcast episode, which I will put in the in the show notes, it's that when you are dealing with items that are seasonal, meaning you don't look at them every day, it's a very specific season that you take them out, because they're out of sight, out of mind. When they are out, that is a great opportunity for you to evaluate if you're even using it, if you need it, if, you know, if it's maybe time for them to to go. So this is a good opportunity for that. So alright. So that's my, like, pro organizing hat, so that you can also declutter at the same time.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:12:52]:
Alright. So we talked about multifunctional, multiuse type of items in our prep work. So, now, when you're looking at the stuff you're packing, can it serve other purposes? And that includes containers. What I mean by containers, if you know our and steps of organizing almost anything, if you don't, then I put it in the show notes. That is our framework here at the Organize Flamingo. Our contain step is all about the the, place that you will put items, said items. So container could be a basket. It could be a plastic tote.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:13:26]:
It could be a a bag. It is the actual container that holds the items in place. So, this is a great opportunity for picking containers like your luggage, like the thing, the containers that will be hosting those stuff and making and and seeing if that can also be a multifunctional item. So instead of luggage, so instead of like a rolling luggage that you would normally take on an airplane, maybe for a road trip, you then take a plastic tote, like, more of a conventional, you know, and gallon tote or however big. And that is where you pack and put your stuff because it can serve as a table. It can serve as a chair. Maybe if you have to stop, you know, during your road trip and you want to have lunch, that could be if you get a really sturdy one, that bin can also you be used as your table, as your holding space, or something like that. So this is a great opportunity for you to look at the things that you're getting, you know, you're packing the stuff in for those to be multi use as well.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:14:33]:
Okay. This is also including the baskets that maybe you put inside of your car where it holds the water bottles, where, you know, you're buying the whatever it may be, like, the organizer that goes in the back of the seat so your kids can watch their movie, and then they can put all their stuff in it. Well, that can can that also be used after the trip? You know? Can that have a multiple cannot have multiple uses. So that's what I want you to think about when you're getting ready and packing. Also, within this section, this is The section where you get to discover if you have not done so already, if you are what kind of packer you are when it comes to, textiles and clothing. Are you a rolling clothes instead of folding? Are you a cube packer, you know, using the, the packing cubes or compression bags? Are you just stuff it in the bag or in the in in the container type of person? So this is a really good opportunity for you to see what kind of person that person you are and really work with it. Honestly, there's so many people that want that keep that come to me and always say they want to be more organized, and their first impression or their first go to is, I just would love to be a tidy little per you know, tidy person. And it's like, well, what does tidy mean to you? And, you know, if you are if you wanna be a folding person where you want all of your clothes to be perfectly folded and beautiful, you need to learn how to fold it first, learn the type of fold you, you know, it's it's good for, and then after that, you have to learn it, and then you have to practice it so that it becomes natural.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:16:08]:
Those are a couple steps before you even get to the point where you can do that consistently. And I'm not putting a poo poo on it here. I want to encourage you to become the best version of yourself. But if naturally The is going to frustrate you, then maybe you're more of a stuffer. You just stuff your, you know, your your clothing in baskets or something like that, then that is just the way that you are and work around that. So, get clothing that is anti wrinkle, that doesn't require you to have to fold it all the time. If you're a hanger, like, if you hang your clothes, then maybe the heavy sweaters are not necessarily something that you want to get too money of because those will stretch. So anyway, the examples can go on forever.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:16:54]:
But when you're packing and unpacking, it those are the times where you will get to learn very quickly how what kind of a packer you are because you have to do it at a very small amount of space. You don't have your whole closet to to figure out or to use. Like, you have a luggage or you have a bin or you have a couple bags. You know, it's not very big. So this is a this is going to be a very good time for you to figure that out. Now there are tips tips and tricks to make the most out of the space. I just mentioned packing cubes, compression bags. Those are great.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:17:28]:
I do have an entire podcast episode about compression packs. And, actually, it it'll be on my either Instagram page or blog, but I I and all the I describe all the different types of packing cubes and compression bags and what they're good for and, you know, pros and cons of all of them because they're not all made the same. Some of them, have ventilation in The. Some of them are water resistant, etcetera, etcetera. So I talk you through that because not all of the packing cubes are made the same. So there are space saving items like those that will help you with your Organized. But at the end of the day, Again, you know, work with your natural tendencies and don't try to become something different because when you're in tight spaces and you're on the road and you're going in and out, and, these types of adventures are not very forgiving. So if you're trying to be more tidy, you know, you wanna practice The well before you get on the road and not during the road trip.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:18:24]:
Okay. So let's go on to the next phase, which is the day before or right before you get on the road. Everyone's a little different. It's basically whenever you have access to the vehicle, and can start loading it up. So for some of you, you might have to go to work that morning, so you can't really pack it that morning, and you have to come back home, or you're reliant on other things or maybe you're renting the van or the RV or something like The, so you may not be able to do it the, you know, day or 2 before. For you, it might just be a couple of hours, but this is where you're bringing out your checklist. Right? You're making sure that whatever you wrote down The you did not want to forget, now is the time because you're about to hit the The. So this is the time to download your books to your Kindle, to your e reader, to download the songs, especially if you will be going to rural places, maybe your podcast episodes may hopefully were one of them that you will be listening to.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:19:18]:
But whatever it may be, make sure you do that ahead of time so that you're not scrambling, number 1, at the last minute. And number 2, if you don't have access to those things before you go, then, you know, it's gonna be a little difficult. It's gonna be frustrating, I should say. So, try to do that a little bit before you head and you turn on the ignition and start to go. Look at your checklist, of course. And then the this part of this is a part where zones I'm sure you've I don't know if you've heard of zones before in the organizing world, but zones are basically designated areas that are meant for a purpose. Right? So you've got zones like your kid zone or, this is where you read zone. When it comes to smaller spaces, smaller footprints, it's very important to have zones because that allows you to have a boundary so so it doesn't start to spill over to other places of your space, and then it just becomes like and big clutter mess.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:20:11]:
So that is why we talk about zones. And in the car, in the RV, in smaller spaces, those are also places where you can be implementing zones. So, this is what you know, you can talk to your family about it or yourself and just know, like, this is where food goes, this is where the trash goes, this is where the toys go, this is where The, you know, etcetera etcetera. This is, like, the luggage. So you really you just designate places ahead of time and you communicate to people, like this is where it goes. For some of you who just love this type of thing The you maybe you wanna label it, maybe you wanna make it pretty, maybe you wanna make it part of the whole experience, awesome. I have seen families who have done it where, it's part of the theme. So if they're going to a theme park, let's say Disney World or something, they make the whole, you know, the car and the zones part of the the, like, the theme.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:20:59]:
Like, they get some cute trash bins that are Disney themed. Like, the whole thing is just really part of it. So the the road trip, the actual on the road, like, preparing for it, the zones, they can be part of your entire experience and adventure. So think about The. And this is, of course, especially true when it comes to trash or anything that can always be put in a very specific spot so that when you hit the trash can or you make a a pit stop, you can just throw those away very quickly without having it be a whole thing. Alright. So we are about to hit the road. So pretty much, in my opinion, as a professional organizer that helps you find the things that you need when you need them as efficiently as possible so you do not become overwhelmed, because that's my specialty, that's my focus for you.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:21:48]:
I am all about trying to do as much as possible before you actually hit the The. Because if once you're on the road, once you are driving in The driver's seats with your seatbelt on, you know, it's not the greatest idea to be distracted or feeling like you need to be doing multiple things except for focusing on the road. So especially if you're the driver. If you're the driver and you're trying to download all these things and trying to organize your area, you know, it's probably not very safe. Actually, it's not safe at all. But if you're a passenger or you're just kinda it's just, like, it's just such a tight quarter. So it's going to be very frustrating, and I don't want you to get frustrated. So do as much as you can beforehand.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:22:26]:
Once you're on the The. There, use your pit stops as great opportunities to do like a little light cleaning, get the trash out, just kind of tidy up a little, like those quick, sprint to tidy up so that it doesn't become so overwhelming at the end. This is especially true. If you if you have, you know, multiple people in the The, so everybody maybe can have, like, a job that they can do. If you have a place that, like, a van, that you need to sweep, maybe it's okay every time there's a pit stop, somebody can do a quick little sweep or maybe one of those vacuum cleaners that you can just put in into an outlet in your van or, u s sometimes they're, like, USB powered, and so those are great just for, like, a quick tidy up. So but that goes more into the cleaning category. But I always like to say that keeping your surfaces and areas as clean as possible or dust free or just clearing those out, it'll give you a great start for keeping your organizing going long term. So, you know, win win for everything.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:23:29]:
So, on the road as well is a great opportunity for you to start mapping out, if you're the passenger or you're able, what your pit stops will be, if if possible, again, but more specifically, if you're going to rural places. If you're going to rural places, I would highly recommend you knowing a couple things about your car. I mean, a lot of things about your car and vehicle, but one of those things is how many gallons, does it take until you go on empty? How many gallons is your vehicle taking before it runs on empty, especially if this is a car that you're renting or it's not yours or it's been a long time since you've driven it, because that will allow you to know how many miles you can go without you know, so you don't run out of gas. So know those types of things on top of your hand or have, like, a little note in your phone so that you can remember. Of course, most most, vehicles will have that available on the dash board, but that is a very important one and that will help you tell everybody, Hey, we are stopping in so many miles, so empty the bladder, do your business, do the thing because, you know, this is we might not have service until then. So that's just like one of those quick little reminders for on the road. Alright. So let's talk about on the in the middle of the road or maybe your round like, this is the time that you're starting to come back, when you're back and then after.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:24:54]:
So The first is the middle of the road or whenever your midpoint is, where either you will be heading back or you're almost done, this is a great opportunity for you to relook at your checklist, make sure that everything's looking good, that you don't need anything on the way there. Because what happens too is, naturally, we we forget things, and in my opinion, that is not a big deal. Okay? The we're not looking for perfection here. We're just looking for less overwhelm, to enjoy the trip, to enjoy the adventure of being on the The. And so this is a good opportunity for you to look at your checklist and see if you forgot anything and to be on the lookout for, a a a store that only carries the thing that you forgot. Hopefully, it's something that is not a big deal, something you can just buy at a local grocery store, very locally. But if you can't, are you able to, pick it up at a, like, a big box store? And where is it so that you don't get to your destination where you may not have any of that available. So this is a really good opportunity for you to take a look at that.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:25:55]:
Okay. You're enjoying your trip. You got there. That's podcast for another day for when you're on vacation, organizing when you're on your vacation. Right? So now you've made your way back. K. You're back home, and this is the opportunity for you to just answer some questions truthfully about yourself and to not push. 2 things.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:26:17]:
Are you an unpacker that wants to do it right away, or do you like to wait? Now there's reasons that you may have to do it. So you might like to take a few days to unpack, but you have to unpack because it's the family car or you need to return it. Maybe you leased it. So it has to be done sooner versus later. If there's one tip that I want you to take out of this entire thing is that when you are back the next like, the last two phases of a trip, you know, you're back and then the after, is that you use that checklist or your notes section to write down what worked, what didn't work, what mistakes you made, what you really liked about something that you did wonderfully, you remembered, you remembered, you know, you really liked the product that you used, maybe the and, the bin that you packed all your clothes. Like, that was phenomenal phenomenal and perfect. Like, you wanna write down the good, the bad, and the ugly on your notes section for the next time because it's still fresh in your mind. Also, in your checklist, when you're back, you will be able to go back and look at your notes or your checklist and see if you have everything.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:27:20]:
You brought everything back. So as you're putting it away or right before you're about to put it away, you're kind of, making sure, okay, you know, I brought back everything, and what you didn't bring back to assess if you didn't bring it back because you don't need it. Did it does it need to be replaced? Maybe you broke midway through and but you really wanted it and like it, so you need to buy another one. So now you're making a list of things that come after a trip. Right? Like, the reconciliation, if you will. But I hope that when you do these exercises, that these are that you you embrace that it's all part of the journey and part of the vacation and the road trip and the adventure and not as a chore. Like, this is supposed to be all encompassing. So these that's why I put all these tips together that all work together with all the phases.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:28:12]:
Right? It's not like just one thing in particular. And if you're able, try to have your family or friends or whoever is going along on the trip with you, have them take some things that you are not necessarily a big fan of doing, or maybe they they would be great at doing it. So share. Sharing is caring, and especially when it comes to organizing, decluttering, our space here, it really matters that you don't take everything on yourself because that is the demise of feeling good about your organizing journey. That is where when burnout and overwhelm will come in and start to creep in, and then it's just much harder to get back and and and feel good about it. So recruit your family and friends in the process of just making sure that your trip is a little just a little bit less overwhelming. You know, you don't even have to use the o word. Hey.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:29:07]:
We have to be more organized. You know? Maybe for some people, that's like a like, that's just too too structured. I get that. Maybe just say, you know, I'm we're just trying to avoid overwhelm and enjoy the trip. Okay. So don't forget to update your checklist as you finish, as the aftermath of you coming back. Maybe go for a car wash, maybe clean out your car really quick so that you can just, you know, put a little put a beautiful wrapping bow. Wrapping bow? Is that a word? Bow around your your, trip that it's done and you, you know, you have the most wonderful memories, hopefully.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:29:43]:
And if anything, they're not beautiful and wonderful that they were memorable in some way, shape, or form, but that you did just wrap it up and it doesn't start to spill over into the overwhelm of life when you come back from a trip. If you're heading on a road trip anytime soon after listening to this episode, please let us know. Tag us over on any of the social media platforms at the Organized Flamingo. We'd love to go along on the ride with you, and hopefully, you found some of these tips helpful and a little bit more comforting as you organize and plan for your trip. So until next time, happy organizing and happy travels. Thank you for listening to the Organized and productive podcast with The Organized Flamingo. If you enjoyed today's episode, I would love it if you leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast player. It helps with letting people know that we're here.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:30:33]:
For full show notes and resources, head on over to the Organized flamingo.com/podcast. Happy organizing.

67: Are You Making Tangible Progress in your Organizing Project? A Check-in with Stephanie

This week we are doing a quick check in with you on how your organizing system is going. We provide you with helpful questions that you can be asking yourself as you organize and declutter your space.

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In this episode we talk about:

  • The importance of tracking progress in a tangible way
  • Uncovering what's not working and areas for improvement
  • Examples on how you can be tracking your progress

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Episode 027: Step 6: Evaluate: Step Back, Evaluate Your Organizing System

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Episode 001: 7 Steps to Organizing *Almost* Anything

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 66: 5 Things To Consider When Moving Locally

This week, we explore the often-overlooked aspects of organizing for a local move. In this episode, we bring you our expertise from years of facilitating seamless moves. We go over five things that go overlooked with local moves, shedding light on practical strategies and essential steps to ensure a smooth relocation. Whether you're downsizing, upgrading, or simply relocating within the same area, this episode equips you with the insights and tools to orchestrate your move with ease. 

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In this episode we talk about:

  • Things you may not have thought of when organizing for a local move
  • How local moves differentiate from long distance moves
  • How to determine how much stuff you have

Mentioned in this Episode:

Episode 001: 7 Steps to Organizing *Almost* Anything

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/7-steps-to-organizing

Episode 014: Should You Do It Yourself or Outsource It

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/?s=14

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65: Simple Steps to Start Organizing your Finances with Kendra James Anderson

This week, we sit down with Kendra James Anderson, CEO of The Finance Femme® and co-founder of Minted Lanes, for an insightful discussion on organizing your finances and the documents that are associated with it. Kendra's wealth of experience, from her corporate background to her entrepreneurial ventures, provides invaluable insights into streamlining your financial management. Together, we'll explore practical strategies and simple steps to help you take control of your finances and pave the way for financial success. Tune in and start your journey to financial organization!

In this episode we talk about:

  • Defining Finance vs. Accounting vs. Bookkeeping
  • Common misunderstandings on what you need to keep
  • How to pick a finance online tools or platform to help you stay organized

Where to find Kendra James Anderson online:

Web: https://thefinancefemme.com/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/TheFinanceFemme

Podcast: https://thefinancefemme.libsyn.com/

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64: Outdoor Organizing: Transitioning Between Cold and Warm Weather

This week we have a quick and actionable episode where we shared valuable tips on changing your outdoor space from one season to another with a focus on decluttering and organizing. We walk you through the 7 steps of organizing almost anything, providing practical insights and advice on assessing your outdoor belongings, sorting and categorizing items, decluttering, finding homes for your items, and using containers. 

Whether you're looking for product recommendations or guidance on a specific item, we are here to help you make the most of your seasonal organizing. So, get ready to be inspired and motivated to create a system that works for you. If you're ready to dive into the world of outdoor organizing and productivity, then let's get started. Happy organizing!

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In this episode we talk about:

  • The importance and how to of goal setting in your organizing journey
  • Maximizing your outdoor and seasonal spaces
  • Creating checklists

Mentioned in this Episode:

Episode 004: A New Decluttering Mindset: Seasonal Decluttering

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/4-a-new-decluttering-mindset-seasonal-decluttering

Episode 001: 7 Steps to organize almost anything episode

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/7-steps-to-organizing

The Organized & Productive podcast is brought to you by The Organized Flamingo and hosted by Stephanie Y. Deininger! For those of you who love the thought of organizing & being more productive, but don’t know where to start or constantly up against hurdles that don’t let you advance the way you want to, this podcast is for you!

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Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:00:00]:
Welcome to the Organized and Productive podcast with The Organized Flamingo. I am your host, Stephanie, a professional organizer and productivity expert. Ready to explore the right organizing and productivity solutions for you? Yeah? Well, then let's go. Hey, organized and productive listeners and community. Welcome to one of our quick and actionable episodes, where if you're unfamiliar, we, here, will just give you some actionable tips on today's topic. Basically, just so that you can go and take action. So this is not more this is not like the research. This isn't really long winded.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:00:37]:
This is like quick and easy. Get to it, take some action, and then let me know if you have any questions. Okay. So that's what kind of episode we're having today. And today's theme is all about changing from the and season to another more specific from the cold weather to this, the warm weather for your outside stuff. So organizing the outside outdoor stuff and how to declutter, how to organize it as you're changing from and season to another. So that's what I'm doing today. I usually, like today I will be giving you our table of contents, our what to expect from the episode.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:01:15]:
So basically I am going through our 7 steps of organizing almost anything in a very quick format. If you're unfamiliar, we do have a framework at the Organized Flamingo. You don't have to follow it, but it's helpful, you know? So I will be putting the episode on that in the show notes. If you'd like to follow along and, and learn more about The, our and steps of organizing almost anything. And so today's episode follows that framework, how to organize and clear out, your outdoor stuff as you get ready for, you know, you know, from one weather to another pattern, like weather pattern. So here we go. I'm gonna go through it really quick. And of course, as always, I'm here to answer questions.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:01:58]:
If you are organizing your outdoor stuff, let us know, please tag us. I'd love to see your space and encourage you in your organizing journey. So, all right, here we go. 1st, we are tackling the assess step and how you can apply this to your out outdoor belongings. In the assess step, which is step number 1 and should never be missed. It's where you just just kind of step back for a minute and look at what you have. So when it comes to your outdoor stuff, you probably have not looked at it for, you know, since last season, probably last fall. Of course, it depends on where you live and the weather pattern and some of you, you know, it depends like the warm, weather, consistently warm weather type of states and areas.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:02:49]:
You probably looked at it, you know, not too long ago, but for the most part, probably not since last fall. Right? So it's been a while. So this is a moment where you get to step back, look at what you have as you have everything laid out, or you're looking at your garage or your shed or your outdoor items, and you're starting to open the doors, take everything out, take note of what you have and what you don't and that you need. This is a great opportunity to do a checklist for the things that you you are needing. So when you are looking at the sales out there, like on the, you know, at the store, the consignment store, maybe online marketplaces, you can now start shopping around for what it is you need. And the reason we do the assess step first is because in the and steps of organizing almost anything, I ask you a very important question, and that is what is your goal for organizing this space? Why is it that you're trying to declutter? Why is it that you're trying to get this place so that it feels better, more organized, or more tidy? Having a goal is super important because if you don't, you can start to get wrapped up in the making it look pretty or decluttering. Like, every single one of those actions are very different. And it can get overwhelming if you don't have a plan or a reason to even be organizing.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:04:22]:
And maybe this year, you don't even need to organize. Maybe it's fine. It works just fine. You can find what you need when you need it as efficiently as possible. And, therefore, you know what? You don't need to do anymore. Maybe now you're in the maintain space, in the maintain step, which is step number the last step, like number 7, where you're just really now maintaining what you already worked on. So that is why it's so important to have an assessing question. Like, what is it that I'm trying to do to begin with? So you don't get too overwhelmed.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:04:56]:
Okay. So I just gave you a couple of tips on that. Make a checklist of what you have, what you don't, what you need, think about what it is that you're trying to achieve. Are you trying to just just, you know, clear it out, downsize? Do you have a new garden that you're starting, a new project that you're starting? What is the goal? So that is step number 1 and my biggest tip for you. As you start taking stock of your belonging, you have your belongings and you're doing this whole assess step, this is also a really good time for you to start your checklist for next year. And this is, like, the the step, you know, like, the assess 2 point o, for all of you who you know what? Like, you're you're in The space now. Why don't you just take advantage for you know, to take, like, a a checklist for next year? Like, take advantage of the moment that everything is out anyway and get prepared for this year, but also next year. So if you're ready for that, start taking, action over your checklist.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:05:56]:
So this is a really good opportunity for next year. So this will be all part of the step number 1, which is assess. Let's go onto our and tip. Okay. So steps 2 through 5 or in this case, tips number 2 through 5 can be interchanged depending on your goal. So step number 1 always comes first and should always be done, which is setting up your goal, stepping back, and just assessing your space. And depending on the goal is where the next steps will go, like, which of the next steps will go next. I typically like to to go to sort as the next step as a default because that just tends to be the quickest and most actionable step.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:06:41]:
But if you are trying to make your space just better looking, more visually attractive, maybe you're moving, maybe you're downsizing, then you will need to alter and adjust the next three steps, so that it fits your goal. Okay? So you will you know, remember, just we have a whole episode on steps on on the and of these steps in the show notes. So listen to that if you're wondering what that means. So that's that's how I'm going to approach it, but I am going to just approach it with the next step being the sort. And the sort step is all about sorting through your stuff and putting it into categories that make sense to you. One of the first ones that I always like to sort things from is or through is, of course, by category, like your garden or depending on what your hobbies are. Right? Like outdoor, indoor hobbies. Not everybody is a garden person necessarily.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:07:37]:
You just may be doing maintenance. Maybe you're more of a leisure type of, warm weather person where, really, you just have the chairs and the cushions and things like that, and you don't really need the rake or the garden stuff. So maybe you can you'll separate under indoor outdoor. Maybe you will separate under the categories of your section of the sections of your garden or your outdoor space, whatever that may be. And if you need ideas on categories, just send us a message or go to our Instagram because I'm always giving you tips on category and labeling and sorting ideas on our Instagram. So just head on over there. Okay. So one of the biggest tips here is consider storing outdoor, like storing maybe, like, organizing The outdoor items closer to the exit.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:08:28]:
So if you're organizing it in your garage, then place the items that typically are going to be outdoors closer to the exit to closer to the garage door exit. Same you know, or whatever space it is. Like, for some of you, it's the mudroom or the shed. So anything that always needs to be outside closer to the exit. 1st, put it in The back because there's nothing worse than having to reach for the one thing you need all the way in the back of the shed or or the garage, and, you know, having to do that over and over. So under the sorting and categorizing, put sections that just make more sense, the less steps to get them, the the better. So yeah. So that's number 2, tip in section, the sword.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:09:17]:
The third is The declutter. This is a great time to declutter. I have a whole episode on The, on seasonal decluttering, which means that when you're taking stuff out for the new season, it's a great time for you to take pictures and inventory of your stuff because it's out anyway. Right? So great opportunity. I put the link to this this episode in the show notes, where I talk all about tips on what to do when you're transitioning from 1 season and season to another, and how you can take advantage of that moment to declutter and Organized little bit better. One of my biggest tips here is what I just mentioned, which was, taking pictures and inventory of your stuff and posting it online or selling it or for free or giving it away, because it's already out. So let's take advantage of that moment. And plus, it probably will sell or go much faster because it's in season as opposed to off season.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:10:14]:
So if you can definitely take advantage of that. Alright. So for the next two steps, the first is finding a home for everything, and then the one number 5 is using containers. The are there are 2 different actions if you're not aware. Finding a home for everything just means that it is the space or area where the items will live. It's it's just the space. Whereas The container is all about the boundary. And when we say containers, it's just an overview term that talks about boundaries of the items.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:10:45]:
Like, where will where will it be hosted, hold it together? The it could be a bin. It could be a beautiful clear bin or basket basket that you have, or it could simply be a cardboard box. Whatever that may be, it's a container. It's contained. Whereas The home is just the area of the house or the home or the space or the in this case, the outdoor space, where it will live maybe in the shed or drawer. Like, it's that's its home, but that's not its container per se. So are you comfortable with where it's at right now? I mentioned, above that or down above, but previously The this is a great opportunity to put the items where it's easiest to get them in and out. If you live in an area where, let's say, you have outdoor items like umbrellas, chairs, cushions, tables that you like to take in and out, maybe in, you know, where it's bad weather, it's raining, you need to you need to bring it in, you may maybe need to put the covers on your chairs.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:11:45]:
Those are the things that you will want to play strategically closer to the exit so that you can get to it faster, because that is where it would, you know, make more the most sense. Now if you have a container that you're keeping outside, that is the next step. Right? Like The container where it's actually stored. So those are the differences between finding a home for the item and then finding the perfect container for it. Of course, this I hope, you know, I have a couple of have it, like, an entire Amazon page storefront that is called outdoor space organizing, and you can head on over there. I give you some ideas on what kind of bins are great for outdoor. You wanna look for all weather. You want to make sure that it's sturdy, things like that.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:12:30]:
So I have a whole list for that in on the Amazon storefront. This is also the section where I always mention and think about your vertical space. I'll give you a great example. We have a bike, pulley system in our garage. So you can just pulley your bicycle up and down. It's super easy to load on it. You just put the handlebars and the seat on these clips, and then you pulley all the way up so that the bicycles are up, and they're easy to get to. I mean, I do not I don't like getting heavy things from the top shelving.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:13:04]:
I think that's very, it's not it's just not a good idea. But a pulley system of well put together installed pulley system will do wonders. So always think about your vertical space. And, that way, you know, you can take advantage of all that space, especially if you have tall ceilings, like, in your garage or something like that. This is a great opportunity to think about that. So let's talk about containers for for just a second, especially for outdoor containers where you would put your decorations or your garden stuff or whatever the outdoor items are. This is the part where I need to mention to look at ventilation. Make sure that the the bins or containers you're putting the stuff in has appropriate ventilation for the item.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:13:50]:
Now this episode is a very broad episode on what to think about and tips on outdoor organizing as you're getting ready for the new season. But if you have specific questions, let me know. For instance, if you are storing your garden items, you might you you probably will need better airflow versus if you're storing, let's say, you know, outdoor toys. But, also, if you're storing swim or swimming, lake, pool, water and of things. You also need something that has good ventilation so it doesn't, you know, just stay in a stagnant type of container. So think about those things so that you can easily get to it. Yes. But, also, it doesn't ruin the things that you're trying to put away and maintain and keep in good shape.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:14:39]:
So think about that. Also in containers, this is the part where personal pref preference will come into play with clear containers versus sealed containers that just have really good labels. If The will be sealed, I would highly recommend that you do some kind of label system, label process. That could be a sticky note with tape. Have at it. The the whole point of Organized, though, is to find the things you need as efficient when you need it as efficiently as possible. So, you know, for some people, they're more visual people. They need pictures of what is inside the bin.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:15:19]:
For other people, they just need a quick little note, a QR code, whatever it may be. So whatever that label system looks like for you, great, but just be consistent with it and make sure that it's, it's helping you look for the things that you need when you need them as opposed to it just being, you know, like a label that makes no sense to you. So, think about that when it comes to containers. And this is especially helpful also. This is especially helpful if you will have items stored away for a long period of time. So not just every season, but let's say you are actually going you know, you don't need it all the time. It's it it's as needed. So let's say you don't always go to the pool.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:16:05]:
You really just go get the things, not only seasonally, but within the season, on a need be basis. So this is super important to make that label system work for you so that you can find the things you need when you need them. All right, everybody. So that's it. That's it for today's episode. Quick and easy. I hope this inspires you to create a system that works for you. If you have questions, please don't hesitate to message me.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:16:31]:
If there's a product that you would like me to look into, if there's a recommendation that you need, let me know. Sometimes these episodes, you know, I make them as broad as possible, but also just getting as like niche as possible. So today's episode, the theme was all about outdoor spaces, but if you have a very particular type of item that you're looking for recommendations or things or spaces, let me know because I don't know. And unless you tell me, so please let me know so that I can answer your questions. I hope this helped. When you can follow these types of tips, you can keep the items in good shape. You can find the things that you need when you need them as efficiently as possible, and also get the most value out of the items when you know what you have, and then you can either upcycle or resell it or donate it. So, so many great things about seasonal decluttering, seasonal organizing The, that you can be taken advantage of.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:17:28]:
So get into those spaces that you hardly ever get into. Send us a picture. I'd love to cheer you on. And don't forget. We do have our and on 1 strategy calls. So if you need to come up with a plan on the stuff that you're working with and you have, and you've inherited, and now you are in possession of, and you don't know what to do with it. We have and on 1 90 minute calls where we can talk about what you have, go over it and come up with a plan that's actionable, easy to follow and not overwhelming at all. So give us a call, send them us a message.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:18:02]:
We're here for you with, for your organizing and productivity needs until next week. Happy organizing. Thank you for listening to the Organized and Productive podcast with The Organized Flamingo. If you enjoyed today's episode, I would love it if you'd leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast player. It helps with letting people know that we're here. For full show notes and resources, head on over to the Organized flamingo.com/podcast. Happy organizing.

63: Letting Go of Mental & Physical Clutter with Colleen Blake-Miller

Letting go is easier said than done.  So this week, we chatted with guest, Colleen Blake-Miller, about the importance of letting go of old beliefs and physical stuff.  

In this episode we talk about:

  • Tips on how to let go & identify when it's a problem. 
  • Common challenges individuals face when attempting to let go, and how can they overcome these obstacles
  • Exploring how letting go of physical items is different from letting go of emotional clutter

Where to find Colleen:

Colleen, a Registered Psychotherapist and dynamic speaker, brings over 16 years of experience to her mission of helping individuals conquer anxiety, depression, and self-worth issues. She is the founder of My Wellness Village, a virtual community that empowers women of faith in their mental health, physical fitness, and personal growth journeys.

As a passionate advocate for holistic well-being, she inspires women on their path to personal transformation. Beyond this, Colleen thrives in panel discussions, where she provides diverse perspectives alongside colleagues and friends in the mental health field. Based in Atlanta, GA, Colleen travels internationally to share her wisdom, foster healing, and make a positive impact. 

You can find more of her here:

Website: https://colleenblakemiller.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/colleenblakemiller/

The Organized & Productive podcast is brought to you by The Organized Flamingo and hosted by Stephanie Y. Deininger.  For those of you who love the thought of organizing & being more productive, but don’t know where to start or constantly up against hurdles that don’t let you advance the way you want to, this podcast is for you!

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Stephanie
Hey community and listeners. Welcome to our next episode here at organized and productive. I'm Stephanie, your host, and this week, we've got a very special guest, we've got Colleen Blake Miller, she is a psychotherapist and speaker, she is going to walk us through and talk to us about the power of letting go. We do address letting go, in general. And we do talk about specifically letting go of physical things. So you will get to hear both perspectives and how they're related. So we will talk about organizing stuff in the podcast in the episode. But we also talk about just in general, letting go and that whole concept. So she has spent over a decade guiding individuals towards health, wellness and personal growth. She specializes in the area like identity, self worth, depression and trauma, helping both women and men in her community, overcome emotional hurdles and achieve their highest success. So with her background and experience, we thought she was the perfect person to walk us through that power of letting go and what do you do about it? How can you go through the process when you are ready, or if you are identifying that you're needing to let go, but you don't know how. So she's just so perfect as a psychotherapist and speaker. She, she understands where what people are going through. So I thought she was the perfect person to talk about that with us. So I met her a couple of years ago through some mutual friends. And I'm a big fan of her work. She actually guided me through some stuff that I needed to let go for my business a couple of years ago, and she was phenomenal. So I thought you know what she is going to be perfect for our community. I think you're all going to really appreciate her love her content. And without further ado, you know how it works, we get straight into the conversation with our guest, so we don't waste your time. And you get to some actionable steps and inspiration. So here we go with Colleen Blake Miller. Welcome to the organized and productive podcast with organized Flamingo. I am your host, Stephanie, a professional organizer and productivity expert, ready to explore the right organizing and productivity solutions for you. Yeah, well, then let's go. Hi, Colleen. And thank you so much for joining the episode this week. I'm so happy you're here. been a huge fan of yours since the day I met. And I'm just so excited that you're here. So as our audience knows, we get straight to the nitty gritty. The title of today's conversation is the power of letting go. And more specific to our physical items is as we we've discussed before. So let's get right into it, shall we? Yeah.

Colleen Blake-Miller
Thanks for having me, Stephanie. Hey, awesome.

Stephanie
Okay, so let's, let's start off with the framework, or at least a reference point. So people know what we're talking about. What is the concept of letting go entail? And how does it relate to mental health and well being? Yeah.

Colleen Blake-Miller
So this is such a great question. If you the listener, or anything like me, I see the beautiful before and after pictures are the videos, I think, man, like, that's what I need, I need to just get like a remake or a redo of my space. And maybe we don't talk enough about the challenge of that process of actually releasing items, because every item that we have, holds some kind of significance, and some things hold more significance than others. And so this idea of letting go is letting go of the emotional attachment that we sometimes have to particular objects, so that we can create spaces that are serving us, you know, when you talk about mental health and wellness, I believe that our physical space 100% is going to impact on our stress level, our our mental, you know, space, if it's cluttered and disorganized, then it's going to it's going to affect how we feel internally, it's going to affect our inner dialogue, you know, we're going to be having conversations with ourselves, like, why can I sort this out what's taking me so long, like I'm so sick and tired, you know. And so it's really important in the process of working through organizing our spaces. We got to go through this process of letting go of things and also a part of that is releasing are like kind of severing some of the emotional attachments at least, you know, we've connected to some of these inanimate objects that we have in our spaces,

Stephanie
so to speak, you know, Have that between me your studies and your own personal experiences with clients? And what in your work? Why do you think that is? Is it because we're such a visual? A society like, and we just embrace it? Like, why do we feel so overwhelmed when our space is overwhelmed as well? Like, why can't we just separate the two?

Colleen Blake-Miller
Well, I think because we're holistic beings, you know, what I'm seeing, I have a script or a narrative playing in my mind about it, you know, you're sitting in, you're sitting at your desk at work, you're not just thinking about work, you're thinking about all the other responsibilities. You're having all these different dialogues, you see something, and then you you have a conversation in your, in your thoughts about that thing. And so if I come into a space, and I am not, I don't identify with a cluttered space, like if I don't really see myself as someone who is, uh, you know, disorganized, or messy, or has stuff everywhere, if I don't identify as that person, like, if I see these beautifully curated spaces, and that's what I identify as, like, no, that's who I am. That's, that's the real me. Then when I see the clutter, and when I see the disorganization, I'm having like an internal kind of battle within myself. Why is this? Why am I allowing this, like, who's responsible for this, these are really real conversations and experiences that we're having. And a part of the stress, I think it overwhelm is not acknowledging that enough, and entering into that dialogue, like interrupting some of that automatic dialogue that's happening, and just being with ourselves and figuring out okay, like, what are we going to do here? That's

Stephanie
so good. Yeah, it's like that, do you? You're not matching what you're seeing with what the reality is? Yeah. So let's talk about letting go of physical items versus emotional items or like clutter, I should say, physical clutter versus emotional clutter? Is that the same? Is it differentiated people, the listener, treated as two different types of clutter? I know, you mentioned there, they get, they get connected at some point. But what are your thoughts?

Colleen Blake-Miller
Well, you know, letting go of physical items, involves decluttering. And simplifying our environment. And I think in some ways, it's seems like it should be easier for some people, maybe if you're, if you have people in your space, that can help you along the way, like, I'm that daughter, that if my mom goes away for the weekend, and just let me at that pantry, and I'm getting rid of that stuff, you know, you may have a hard time with this stuff, but I don't. So I'm getting rid of it. So it's a matter of just physically decluttering a space, it could be easy, or it could be hard, letting go the motional clutter that I think is a lot trickier, right? We're talking about negative emotions, we're talking about beliefs, we're talking about past experiences, traumas, things that really weigh you down. And the other thing is, some of these things have very deep roots, right? Some of these things, some of the emotional kind of clutter that we are carrying, has come from our very birth, like it's passed down from one generation to another. And so it really is not as simple as inviting, you know, a team, like, like, like yourself in to just fix up the space. And okay, now that it's now that it's that it's organized, I just have to follow the system, it's a lot trickier than that it's more complex. So we got to offer ourselves grace, I think when we are sorting through, and really addressing emotional clutter that we are contending with. Does that make sense? It does. Absolutely.

Stephanie
And which if I don't know if this is too general of a question to be asking, but where people start with the emotional hardship or the physical, if they're if they understand like, they've come to the acceptance that there's something's happening here and they need to, you know, declutter, figuratively and literally, where, like, where do you suggest people start both at the same time one or the other, like, from your experience? What has worked fairly well? Yeah. Well,

Colleen Blake-Miller
if we were to wait to clear through and organize all of the emotional clutter Stephanie we He would be hard at work, you know, with the inner stuff. But our spaces would just be just sitting and waiting. Because to me, our life is a journey of sorting through. And sometimes the more that you do the work is the more that you discover. So I would say in conjunction with, I think you can do them both. I think sometimes what you really do need is to trust an expert like yourself, you know, to say, Come and help me do the work, coach me through doing this work. And then you could talk to, you know, your coach, your therapist, your mentor, your people about how hard some of that stuff was, or a particular aspect, because I believe we'll always have work to do, even when our spaces are perfectly curated. And you know, like looking like magazines, we're always gonna have work to do. Oh, I

Stephanie
love what you said. It's like life is a basically it's a, it's a journey to process. So if you wait, it's, yeah,

Colleen Blake-Miller
don't wait, don't wait, do what you can do today. And I feel like sometimes when will for me when my spaces are organized, I feel lighter, I feel more empowered to do the difficult work. I remember when my son, my son is actually celebrating his 60th birthday today. My eldest, and I remember when he was just an infant, that was the one room in my house that was organized and perfectly like curated, and I worked so hard on on that nursery, I remember being in labor, and I was like, pleated and finish painting, the, you know, the, whatever, whatever area it was, or the running was something in the ceiling, and on the ladder, in labor, trying to finish it, my husband's like, Please, stop down, we gotta go to the hospital anyways, I would sit in the room. And I would just be filled with a sense of peace. And I would say to myself, Okay, I would love for every place in my house to be like this. But at least for now, this is the space that I can come to and find that sense of peace. I remember days, you know, sitting in that rocking chair and crying about other matters, you know, but it was like a safe space. So I feel like yeah, don't wait, find a way to just start doing a little bit of the work. Because it's never an end. Yeah.

Stephanie
And a place you can control that doesn't have feelings, right? A space is so it's there. It's a space. It's a physical item versus you and your brain in your heart. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Okay, so let's talk about fear. Speaking of emotions, and I think it's, this is kind of that natural. Okay, right, fine. I'll also get started. But now the fear starts to set in, have regret of, you know, if I let this go, like it just had this guilt, this fear of what will happen if I make this really drastic change in my life, which is decluttering, and letting go the you know, having that power to let go? How could that manifests itself in someone's behavior? Patterns? Like, how can that be coming out something that maybe they should be watching out for it?

Colleen Blake-Miller
I love that question. It's so empowering because it's giving the listener some like, yellow and red flags to look out for. So one, let's normalize the fear. Let's not feel bad, let's not, you know, internalize any kind of judgment. Other people may judge you look at let that be their business. Don't collude with them and start to judge yourself. Everybody feels different emotions. Fear is a natural emotion that we're going to we're going to feel because it's hard. Sometimes letting go of things is really hard. Practically speaking, letting go, the fear of letting go, excuse me may manifest as resistance to change. You know, like, you know, second guessing the decision to make a change or coming up with excuses for why I can't do it today, even though you blocked the day off of your calendar at work to do it. And I know, you said you're doing it, we're doing it today. Okay. It might manifest as clinging to familiar things, you know, even though you've not looked at it or touched it in years. It's like it belonged to my great grandmother and it belonged to so and so. And it's clinging to the familiar. It's this idea of perfectionism. Like if I can't get this perfectly situated, if I don't have enough time, if I don't have all of the In the system's all the bins all of this you know all those sorting solutions like the organizational stuff, I can't do it. Sometimes that perfectionist kind of desire for it to look perfect. That sometimes is your fear manifesting itself. Sometimes it's the avoiding uncomfortable emotions, it can definitely lead to feelings of anxiousness, you know, feelings of insecurity, feelings of stagnation, you want to be paying attention to when these types of things are coming out? Because at the end of the day, it is this idea of, well, what will it mean? Or what will happen if I actually release and let this thing go? Or these things go? Yeah.

Stephanie
So I'm looking for that. I mean, to face all that, yeah, it can be scary. Okay, so let's kind of like, come back and give people some help. Because there's a lot and some solutions for all of our listeners to take away. Let's discuss some of the potential benefits, of course, like what like, what are the pluses of letting go you talked about at the beginning, but what what changes have you seen and people that you work with, when they truly like go not just superficially, but when they do let go? Like, what are some of those positive feelings that you have seen come up? And on that same topic, are there any mindful exercises our listeners can be working towards? To facilitate the process? Yeah,

Colleen Blake-Miller
so to me, the word that comes to mind very quickly is this idea of lightness, feeling lighter, you know, when we're over, kind of, whelmed with all of the stuff, that's the physical stuff, as well as the emotional stuff, it's so heavy, it's exhausting, you know, to be carrying all of that. And when we are able, are courageous enough to do the work, lean into the discomfort and let things go, then we experience a lightness, we will experience a clarity, in terms of what actually matters the most, I think about I had an event last year in November, and one of the women who attended tragically, her home caught on fire. And I think about oh my god, like the loss of just everything. You know, she escaped with her life, she escaped with her child. The thought of losing all of our stuff, I think would devastate all of us. However, if you had certain things, you know, like your life, your health, your loved ones, you would be thankful for those things, I think letting go helps you like doing the work of letting go helps you to figure out what matters the most at the end of the day. You know, we live in a world that's very materialistic, you know, that's why we have to limit what we let in, you know, I actually am someone who stopped watching HGTV many years ago, because what I found was, although I was inspired, I became discontent with my space. Every time I watched a different program, it was like, oh, I should do this instead. Or I should do that. Or I should, you know, start saving for this or that. It's like, wait a second, I want to be at peace, feel settled, and be satisfied with what life looks like now. And these are some of the benefits of of learning to let go doing the work. There's no quick fix, there's no pill to take, there's no letting go pill. It's it's a it's it's a journey. You sometimes take baby steps along the way, but show up and lean in and do the work. And over time, you're going to notice a lightness, you're going to notice clarity, you're going to experience peace, you're going to you're going to experience contentment not to say things don't need to change in your life. But even you know, while you're waiting for certain things that need to change to change, you can still feel content, you know, and at peace. So those are some of the things I think that's

Stephanie
great. What are some exercises that you would suggest or if you have some great, you know, prompts and things out on your, you know, like on your Instagram and some of your sites. But what are some of those things that that you've seen work for people or you would suggest as an exercise? Yeah.

Colleen Blake-Miller
So you talked about mindfulness. And so this mindfulness, in really simple terms is just this idea of being present. Being present, being in this moment. You know, even a In a cluttered space, or what seems like a chaotic space, you can really experience the benefits of mindfulness. It's this idea of being present, being in the moment being in the here and now pulling yourself away from that mental clutter inside as well as that external, you know, the noise from the outside. And just noticing like, okay, like a breath, even, how amazing is it to be able to inhale and exhale, noticing that, all right, it feels like everything is crumbling down. But everything is actually not crumbling down in this moment. In this moment, I'm actually okay. In this moment, things are actually okay. And, and it's it's exercises and practices that will help you to really remain in that present moment, you could do that through deep breathing, you could do that through guided meditation. You can do that. I mean, you could mindfully walk in nature, you could mindfully Enjoy your meal. And every time you notice yourself, your mind kind of leaving that moment and going off to concern itself about all the other things, you just come back, bring yourself back to the present, say no, no. Right now I'm enjoying my coffee. Okay, right now I'm enjoying this afternoon breeze. And just kind of say in that moment. So mindfulness is I mean, that's a whole other like podcast episode, you can go so deep with that. Other ideas are things like journaling, actually getting some of those thoughts out of your head, and putting them on paper. That can be a wonderful sense of release and relief, as you as you do that, you know, so you could do some mindfulness exercises, you could do some some journaling. I mean, you could talk to someone, you could talk to a professional, if you find that you really do need that support. I'm obviously I'm an advocate for therapy, I think it's really helpful and beneficial, and even the people in your life, finding the people who really genuinely care for you. And meanwhile for you, and giving them permission to speak words of life and encouragement and to you, those are some of the things that can I think, really help you practically, as you are leaning into the difficult work of of letting go.

Stephanie
And if you didn't grow up without that permission, or practicing this skill, I can see how what you said is something like working with someone or allowing yourself to practice that, like somebody allowed me know that receiving it and then practicing it. So I can see how the more you do it like skill, especially if you didn't grow up with it, how can be helpful? Yeah, well, you know, I take a deep breath, because speaking of deep breaths, because you mentioned such, they're not easy, but they're things that you should know about your mental health and being able to do these exercises that are simple, but yet we don't do them. So I think you're just such a great reminder, that doesn't have to be overly complicated. Like it doesn't have to feel like you said that you're going to go take.

Colleen Blake-Miller
Yeah, there's simple You said it, you hit the nail right on the head, Stephanie, they are simple things. But they are not easy things, especially in the context where we find ourselves, right? We are in a world that we get messaging every day we wake up, unless you are like off the grid. Okay, so if you're off the grid, and you're like out, you know, and like the elements, you know what I'm saying? Like, then you probably are listening to this podcast. And the first one is but, you know, every day for many of us, we are bombarded with messaging, visually, audibly. You know, the people in our lives, they've got demands, they've got expectations, we have put all these demands and expectations on ourselves. You know, we look at the calendar, we look at the time we're like, oh, my gosh, I'm running out of time. So so we really do have to slow ourselves down. It is simple things that are going to help to allow us to have optimal mental health, but they're hard to do, partly because of the bad habits that we have, you know, picked up along the way. And we're trying to do them within us. system that I feel works against us so much of the time. Yeah, I'm saying.

Stephanie
Yeah, yeah. Thanks for grounding us. Okay, so now as we unwind from the episode, because I could be going on forever, I'm looking at you like, Oh, my God, we're not done. But I know our audience. And they're already putting all this stuff into practice. And they want to just pause this and go do their things. So we are going to do that. So a couple things. First, we have our three questions we ask of all our guests. The first one being, what is something that you would want people to take away from this conversation?

Colleen Blake-Miller
I would want you to take away from the conversation, just one encouraging nudge, to fight for your peace. Okay, in the midst of whatever life looks like, right, whether you're on track with your organizational plan, or you've like forgotten all about the what you said you were gonna do. And you're like, in the like, right in the middle of what feels like chaos. That piece is available to you. And this is an encouragement to say, you know, fight for it today. What is going to bring me peace in this moment. That's my encouragement. Fight for that.

Stephanie
Fight for your peace. I love that. All right. The second is we always ask our guests what their favorite magazine is, or blog to read. Either business or pleasure in why we'd love to be like that. Oh, it gets to learn a little more about Yeah,

Colleen Blake-Miller
she's my fellow torn, I think for entertainment. While there's an entertainment, entertainment slash inspiration. I do like, oh, geez, now I'm trying to blank. Oh, Better Homes and garden. I like better homes and garden, because the digital magazine because it has like, just about everything, like, covers mental wellness, it covers practical things, that as a mother of young kids, I can, you know, try different recipes. I, I in my mind, I am a DIY er, there were there was a season of my life when I had more capacity for that. But in my mind, I'm totally the do it yourself, girl. So I love watching and seeing those those things. So there's that. And then for just sharpening myself, and helping and supporting my community. I do like psychology today as well. Lots of practical articles that can help to promote mental health and wellness. So those would be two.

Stephanie
All right. So it's before we end the conversation, though, let's hear where people can find you. Loved this conversations for listener love the conversation, where can they find more information on what you do? Where do you hang out on social webs out there.

Colleen Blake-Miller
I'm an Instagram girl. I'm totally an Instagram girl, I I invest a lot of my mental capacity, and then my practical like resources and stuff like that on creating content that I think is going to help to edify my audience and really build them up. There is more fate woven in these days. That's just the season. That's where I'm at being really authentic to who I am and what inspires me and what moves me and keeps me going. Yeah, so like there's I my assistant and I were just talking about my Lincoln bio. It's just kind of like, so full Ral I'm like, How can we compact this, like, it's just got so much going on in there. But tons of resources can be found in my Lincoln bio, to my website, my podcast articles that I've written. And or been, you know, like an expert or quoted in and that kind of thing and other fun things that I have going on. You could find it all via and stuff.

Stephanie
Awesome. Wonderful. Well, I'm a huge fan. And I hope everyone gets to check out all of your content out there. Thank you again for joining me and us today. Thank you for your time and to the listener. Thanks for being here at the organizing. Thank you for listening to the organized and productive podcast with the organized Flamingo. If you enjoyed today's episode, I would love it if you'd leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast player. It helps with letting people know that we're here. For full show notes and resources head on over to the organized flamingo.com/podcast Have you organizing.

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62: Practical Tips for Organizing Closets Without Clothes

We tend to think about closets and immediately think “clothes” or “linens”, but other things are stored in closets, too! This week we get into the topic of organizing closets that don't have clothes in them. We talk about different organization strategies and solutions and we share exciting news about upcoming celebrations and a new guide called “I'm Stuck: A Guide to Decluttering with Compassion,” designed to help listeners navigate cluttered scenarios. Tune in for our expert insights into transforming your non-clothing closets and get inspired to declutter and organize your space with ease.

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  • We talk about food closets, office closets, cleaning supplies closets, craft closets and kids closets

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Hey, listeners and friends. Welcome to our episode here. This week we are talking about closets. So we're just gonna get straight to it this week with some practical tips that I think will help you go out and tackle your closets. But more specifically, as you can see from the title, we are avoiding the conversation on closets and clothes. So these are closets, all the other closets that may exist in your hemisphere in your home in your space, that are not a hosting or holding everyday clothes. Okay, that's an entirely different episode, we actually did an episode on organizing your closet, capsule wardrobe, which I will put in the show notes. And so I wanted to talk about closets and organizing them. Because a lot of us have other things that we store in them. But we don't talk about it. And we don't talk and we don't we forget that those things exist in there. So I wanted to make an episode specifically for those items. And how you know, some tips that I have for you some things to think about. And then I'll just kind of give you what some of the like what what do people normally do when you know it's overflowing? Or what do people usually store in there? And how do they handle it so that things are not forgotten all in the closet, you know, and it goes into the abyss of the black hole. So let's get right into it with the tips. Welcome to the organized and productive podcast with the organized Flamingo. I'm your host, Stephanie, a professional organizer and productivity expert, ready to explore the right organizing and productivity solutions for you. Yeah, well then let's go.

Okay, so to get started, let's talk about the most common items, or groupings of items that are stored in closets that are not clothing. So what I ended up doing is I grouped the grouped five categories for you that are very typical. And so we ended so then I will talk about each grouping and put in tips for each grouping. You may have closets that have a combination of these groupings. And that's okay, I also addressed that in this conversation. But I know I know our community, you all have given me feedback, and you like it when I group things for you. So that you start to you know, get an idea and have a starting point. So it's not just so overwhelming. So I did just that I went ahead and grouped it. So the first type of items is going to be kitchen and or food. The second is home office. So think home office closet, you know, things like office stuff, very differently, though, is the craft closet. So we're tackling this in two different sections. And then the third is, or the fourth is cleaning supplies, or something like it. And then the last is the kid's closet. Because so even though you do store clothing in kids closets, I did separate it from clothing because you don't always store clothes and your kids clothing, right? So so that's why I am talking about it. But I'm not really talking too much about everyday clothing in the kids closet section. Okay, so All right, so those are categories. Let's start with the kitchen, pantry and or food for closets where you are storing food. Here's a couple things for you to consider and for inspiration. First, if you're wondering why people transfer their food from the original packaging container to another one, like a clear one, you know, became a trend for a couple of years, I think it's dying off a little bit more. But there is actually practicality to that. I'm not saying that this is a good idea for everyone. But I'm going to give you the behind the scenes as to why it could be a good idea for you. The concept is called a canteen. And what that means is that you are putting the items from its original packaging or box or whatever the package and then putting it into something else. It does a couple of things, it airs out some of the food that needs it to be aired out. And then of course, if you're transferring it to a bin that is well labeled, or the bin that fits in the area, you're trying to store it, it's great. So this is something that restaurants do quite a bit. People that make their own food or harvest their own food, right so you have these really big packages that it will be originally in and then you need something smaller you can actually carry move around and store in our kitchen closets or our food pantry type of closets. And maybe you have it in a like a basement or garage or something like that. Um, you can't always fit those really big sacks or big bins that you get from a big box store. So then you end up decanting it or putting it into something smaller, where it got out of hand and the trend started to just, you know, put a bad label to it. No pun intended.

It was when we started to dive into the aesthetically pleasing sector of the canteen where people just did it just for it so that it looked pretty, which is could be a great reason for you and if that is your path wonderful Have at it, but there is an actual there are good reasons for it. So I wanted to give the good side of it and how it's not just the trend that we know of. Now you know, this has been around for a long time. So the canteen could be a good reason and a good thing for you to put in your, in your closet of food. Because again, it just might be easier to grab and get and not as heavy to put on some of those shelvings that have you may have in that food area closet. Alright, so the second and third tip within the kitchen and food closet areas is the labeling and grouping things with you know with like I like items or categorizing it into and sorting into things, actions that makes sense to you. So I did a kitchen organizing episode, I've actually done a couple. And this is where you get to decide of course what what sorting what, what function will make sense to you. Some people organize their kitchens and those closet food areas based on what they bake the most what they need the most. So this is where you get to decide what makes sense to you, you may want to sort by colors, you know you are such a visual color person that you you like all the reds and the yellows and the whatever it may be all in the same sections. Because that makes sense to you. That's how you go grocery shopping. That is how you store food like items and based on the packaging, have added but just come up with something that's consistent, and group them and label it so that other people know how you group them together especially of course, if you live with other people that may not have been involved in how you organized this food closet. So the to the second and third tip are group similar items together based on how you gather and get get stuff from this closet. And then the third is label it so that it makes sense. And you remember how everything is being stored. Because with closets, those are the places that you're not necessarily accessing all the time. And you know, except for like a coat closet. And of course your clothing closet, which is again, why I didn't want to have why I wanted to have a different conversation. These are these are closets that you only go into when you need something every so often. So when you label it, you don't have to worry about remembering where everything and how everything was sorted to begin with. Okay, so let's move on to home office closet organization tips. The first is find a filing system. If you are a paper person, great you understand the power of a filing system. If you are not, you should also understand that there's a power to the filing system. Even if you're the most no paper person having some kind of system where how things will be filed is useful for you. So that if somebody comes and delivers mail or puts paperwork in your closet in your closet of that, you know the home office, they know where things go. So filing systems are really important I say this to everyone even again, if you're not a paper person have one in mind how is it going to be an action based filing system which is a retrieval is we also call it a retrieval type of system. So that means how do you retrieve things and that is the label in the sorting name. So you retrieve things on Mondays so you retrieve things on Tuesday when you know whatever the day of the week. So that filing system that will be labeled as such because it is when you retrieve the items when you need to take action of some sort. So a filing system very important. The second is it's all about furniture so picking the right Furniture and this tip is in particular is about having furniture that you can easily move around as needed. Especially in the home office. I also will talk about it in the Craft and Hobby closet area. Basically you that your system in bins or whatever it may be that you're using to organize those closets can be easily movable and functional because you're taking things in and out as you need them. So if there is going to be a closet where that will be needed like or furniture or bins are easily movable. It's going to be in your home office and in your craft and or hobby closet areas. Okay so fun fact with home office closets. This is actually one of the very first places I organized it was for a business that I was organizing the ribbons for and I went into their closet

it and it was just a mess. So I said, Hey, would you mind if I organize this like it would be my pleasure, and they were just so kind to me, and gave me all these referrals all the times and I said, you know, if to repay, repay you for just going above and beyond, I would love to, you know, organize this area for you. And that is really like how the spaces organizing sector of my business started. Because I was organizing events before, you know, producing events and helping people with that. And they're very similar types of

talents. So when I went to start to organize their closet, like their their office closet, I just immediately fell in love. And anyway, the rest is history. But the point here is that I have a lot of experience with these areas. And in home office, or even just business office closets in general, that is an area that is almost more like a community warehouse, a place that you really just go for whenever you need something that you're running low of. So you probably have your pens and your sticky notes and the paper or whatever it whatever else. Most likely you have that within your desk or somewhere outside like in your in the actual office. Even if it's like your papers, they're probably in a filing cabinet and not necessarily in the closet most of the time. So in the home office in business office closet, I would or I would recommend some kind of area where you're filling in what your what you're running low on, or having some kind of system that tells you I'm running low on this. It could be if you're if you're a tech person, you know you do a every month you do an inventory check and then you put that in your notes so that when you're at your local store or you're ordering through whatever online platform, you can go and refill for the items that you need, especially when it comes to maybe paper for printing paper or if you're creative that is always printing things like labels and things like that and your rent low. And this is where the inventory really comes in most closets you should have some kind of inventory. But our everyday closets we don't write because it's not really like a little mini warehouse you're not really shopping for things that are running low except for your like food and home organize excuse me and home office business office closet. So Inventory section pad reminders, very useful to to help you remember what you need, and you're not buying too much of it so it doesn't become so cluttered in there. So that is my my last tip here on this section. Next up, we've got the cleaning supplies closet, this is one of my favorites as well. It's really fun that to categorize all these cleaning products. I don't know why just they just it always has been but anyway, the one of the biggest tips that I have for you is to keep the the items organized in caddies or some type of removable pad or removable bin or box or tray. Because as we all know, sometimes there's a spill, of course there's toxic could be toxic stuff down there. And you don't really want it to be ruining your shelf, your closet, your carpet, whatever, you know, however your closet is designed. So this is one of those areas that I would I would recommend you do that also that way where you can take the cleaning supplies wherever you need it. So if it's in a caddy, you can just grab and go and and clean up whatever section of your house or item or whatever you need it for. But primarily one of the reasons I give this tip is because of the spills and the damage that these items can do. So it's just so much easier to do the cleanup when they have some kind of caddy bin situation type of thing. That will help you get organized down there. Okay, tip number two because most of these cleaning supplies are heavy, you know they're water. So they're just heavier type of items. This is where a tear type of system works really well like underneath your sink or wherever the closet is going to be like you if you do have an entire closet for it. Having some kind of like tiered where the heavy items go in the back and then the lighter stuff in the front but so that you can see what is in the back there is this tiered type of shelving unit. Sometimes it's a shelving unit sometimes it is a they make them actually we'll put the Amazon storefront in the show notes but they do make almost like a spice of the spice rack type of of tiered shelving that you can just put on the floor of the closet and so that way, you know you can see what's bought like in the very back and then this heavier stuff can just be in the bottom

and easy to grab and you don't have to put that in shelving and shelves in the closet which can weigh down the shelf. So storing bulky items.

At the bottom are very sturdy, high shelves, and things like that also in a closet where you're keeping cleaning supplies, hooks, this is where hooks are amazing. Anything that where you can just, you know, think vertical space, like the door, the side of the closet, where you can just hang them up the broom that whatever it may be, sometimes even the rags like this, this type of closet is the perfect candidate for hooks, and anything that adheres to the vertical space. So that you can just grab and go grab and go, and then you know exactly where it belongs. Last tip on the cleaning supplies closet is having this is a really good place for you. And for you to do like a

like a label system as to where things are meant to go back into or tape so that the tape of the shape. So I'm actually going to talk about it more in detail in the kids closet in just a second. But basically the shape of the item, almost like the parameter, tape it with some painters tape so that you know it belongs there and other people know that it belongs there. And it just kind of gives you this visual parameter of what's supposed to be there. So this is a really good place to do that. I wouldn't necessarily do that in a closet where you're keeping, you know, other things like you're definitely not your clothes. I mean, there's just other places there just doesn't make sense. But in a cleaning closet, it does. Okay, so let's talk about the Craft and Hobby closet. So this is the place of that my number one tip is just to sort and declutter regularly. I mean, this goes without saying for all closets because like I said, at the beginning of the episode, this is black hole of spaces, this is where you go and you know, someone came over. So you just shoved everything in the closet. This is the place where things go and get forgotten. So it's just the abyss, it just definitely gets lost. So this should be for all closets. Declutter regularly clean him up regularly. But in the Craft and Hobby closet, it's even more more important because this is where you you finished a project like for a hobby or whatever. And then a really gets forgotten for a long, long time. And it's not, it's a hobby, so it's out of necessity, so you're not thinking about it all the time. So this is a place where I just say go in and make sure that you're sorting what you do have that when you finish that last project, that it didn't just spill over everywhere. In that way, you know, you have so through clutter regularly in the space. But let's talk about storage solutions that I would recommend pegboards great place for you to be using them because you can hang things you can you can easily hang things that it looks visually more appealing than maybe just like a simple

hook, you know. And so I mean, hooks are great in that area, just like the cleaning closet. But pegboards are just making it some what a little bit more appealing to your creative mind is great for this type of closet. This is where the clear containers also come in handy so that you can see what you have, especially if your hobby or your crafts or small pink beads or buttons and things like that, that you indoor whoever is using that closet, you can see what's inside. So anything that's clear, or anything that you can easily label, it would be wonderful, especially for the very little things that tend to get lost in there and you didn't even know you had. All right. So last week got a B children or kids closet, this is an area that well things really tend to just kind of get shoved in some of you that are super organized, you have your bins in there, and it's just well labeled. And that's awesome high five. So some of these tips, I think will still be useful because this hopefully will get you more inspired to create a new system that can work with your children as they get older. And as or just as things you know, move and change around. So the first thing is pick a storage solution like the bins that I just talked about, that are big enough to store both little things and of course big things. So don't just have the really big totes, where things tend to get lost. And I'll tell you why. I think you know those little itty bitty parts that come with the little car or the Legos or building blocks or whatever it may be that you know the accessories to the toy. There is nothing worse than having those really big totes that you have in your closet and then having to dig really deep in the tote to find that one little piece that you need it. So this closet is the perfect place for you to have a mix of small bins for the accessories and then the big one, and then you will match them together. So you will do so when you do the label outside of the bin. It will say been one of two or if this is a very a particularly large type of toy like like maybe a doll house or a playset right that has different parts. You'll have the bigger parts in the big bin and then the smaller parts in the small bin sometimes a small bin will go into

Big Toe two, it'll be nested in there awesome. But if it's not, then that way, you know, it belongs to the rest of, you know, there's other parts to this assembly line. So topes, big, small and nesting is very handy and very helpful in kids closets, to is the labeling and pictures. So because you know, you hopefully are encouraging the children to help you put away stuff and also be organized because it's their stuff ultimately. So putting some kind of label system that makes sense for them, and their learning ability and age appropriate. So everything from labels to pictures to color coding so that they know where things belong, super helpful. And that way, they just know, okay, this is where it belongs. And I can just close it. And then you know, that that's that. And then the last is the lecture, there's two one is the rotating toys. We actually talked about this, and maybe we've talked about this in me and like just in general, right, you should always be looking at your closet on a fairly consistent basis, not every day, not weekly. But probably I would say every quarter is a good, happy medium, maybe every six months even. But just doing like a really good purge of those areas works great especially in in toys, where they may be outgrowing them. And there's new ones coming in, because of the holidays or giveaways and then you know children's parties and their birthdays or whatever. So that is one of those areas where they're consistently changing in development and development. So you need just to be careful to not be keeping everything because then you will start to spill over. So definitely do declutter per gene or

schedule for that area. And then the last is installing hooks and rods, or anything that is also age appropriate. So here's what I mean by that. closets are amazing because you can, you know, you hang things, you can stack things up, you kind of design it however you want or need, according to what it you know, the space you're working with, right. But when it comes to kids in their, their age, their you know, sometimes are shorter or longer, and they need to be able to reach so the top sections sometimes don't get utilized as much because only the parent or the person, the caretaker is the only one that can reach it. So this is a really good place for you to have some kind of stool that is within the boundaries that you need them to be. And then everything else and rods and everything else that should be within their height. And then everything above that is either off limits. So you know you work through that I like to suggest to people that the lighter stuff goes at the top, or the stuff that you just put very clear boundaries like stuff that's locked in, there are bins that come with like a lock in them. So maybe that's the

the bins where it has like the the toys that they're not getting until their next birthday. So anyway, off limits area can be the top and then the bottom can be for the children so that they can access it easily as well. And then have some kind of stepping stool so that you when you do need to get the stuff from the very top, you can safely do so. Alright, so those are the fast tips on things that I think you should consider. Or maybe think about that could be helpful in organizing your closet that is not just for clothing. So think about those things that are super handy. I'd have put a couple links down in the show notes, so that you can just click through and get some visualization. I know I'm a very visual person. So sometimes when someone says to me use this or like this, I want to see what you mean. I want to see a product example. And then I can do my own shopping from there. Just remember that anything that we may earn commission is of no additional cost to you. And we always put that next to the link so that you know not all the links are associated with a commission based type of storefront some of them are that's just the way some of the websites are handled. But just know that anything that we recommend to you or that we want you to click on is something that we actually use we trust and could be a good option for you. But definitely do your own shopping definitely look around look at local marketplaces and see if they have a version that you can get locally or from the thrift store or from a market online marketplace where somebody else is selling it that is in great condition. So definitely consider your options. But if you're a visual person like me and you need to see examples then head on down to the Amazon storefront. Also a quick note. It notice here if you made it past this, it means that you are probably part of our community and and you know you enjoy seeing and hearing about the behind the scenes. Number one, we are celebrating five years at the organized Flamingo this between this month and next

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61: Stop Confusing Cleaning with Organizing

Do you ever clean your space and feel so much better? It feels like you’ve got everything all nice and organized.  Or so you think it’s organized. This week, we chat about the often misunderstood difference between cleaning and organizing. We highlight how confusing these two actions can lead to frustration in one's organizing journey. 

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In this episode we talk about:

  • Defining organizing and cleaning
  • Why it’s important to distinguish both actions
  • Practical solutions to separate cleaning and organizing to prevent burnout
  • Strategies for maintaining a clear distinction between cleaning and organizing

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Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:00:00]:
Hi, friends and listeners of the podcast. Welcome to our next episode here at Organized and Productive, the podcast. This week, we are leaning into the world of cleaning versus organizing. We're going to talk about why they get confused, how they get confused, and why this confusion may be the reason why you're so frustrated over your organizing journey, why you feel like you're not advancing or you're not the quote unquote organized person that you truly want to be. So before we do go though, everybody, you know, we start with, like, a table of contents. If you're new, we I just kinda give you a heads up over what's coming in the episode, and then we go on our merry way. So today, so we'll start off with the definition of both of cleaning and Organized. So we can all start with the same definition.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:00:54]:
And then I will then go into each of those, give you a little detail about what one of them how, you know, how we define it, how we and today's society react or activate our organizing selves or our cleaning selves. And then I will go ahead and talk about why mixing the mixing them both or combining both of those actions into and may be the reason that you're getting frustrated. And then we're we'll talk about solutions over what to do when you how to separate them first, and then what to do when if you are mixing them together. Like, if you're going on these cleaning frenzies. But what to do so that you can start separating the 2, and you can find The you know, find what it is that you're actually needing. Do you need an organizing service or to be more organized or learn more of The? Or do you need to lean into the cleaning piece of it? So we'll go in that order, and let's get to our conversation. Welcome to the Organized and productive podcast with The Organized Flamingo. I'm your host, Stephanie, a professional organizer and productivity expert.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:02:03]:
Ready to explore the right organizing and productivity solutions for you? Yeah? Well, then let's go. Let's start with the definition of cleaning. And we are using the Merriam Webster's dictionary for the definitions here today. And I'm only really saying the definition so that we both are starting from the same definition. Right? But I think most of you know and understand that cleaning is the removal of dirt. The primary goal of cleaning is to remove the the dirt, the dust, the stains, the unwanted substances. Maybe the part of cleaning can also be disinfecting. So that's the the action of Flamingo, and then the actions to get to that place.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:02:47]:
Right? So then it's the scrubbing. Whether you use scrubbing or how you go about it is an entirely different conversation and tips, but we are just defining so that that is The action of cleaning. Then we have the action of organizing. And organizing is about finding an orderly way to find your items, to arrange the items systematically for efficiency, accessibility, and visual appeal as well. And as you can already tell just from the definition, like, if you just do a quick search, open your dictionary up, those 2 are 2 different types of actions. Quite frankly, we can stop the podcast there, and you can probably already tell where I'm going with The, That those two actions are so different The if you are to mix them up and use them interchangeably, you will then start to get frustrated because and is just all about cleaning and scrubbing and making it shiny and clean. And the other is about finding a way to efficiently look for your things, arrange your things so that it can serve your life's purpose. And when we start to mix them together and you start to say, oh my gosh.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:04:07]:
My space needs to get more organized. I'm so disorganized. But what it really could be happening is that your space is really more dirty and you need to clean it, you might be blaming yourself for something that you're not. This really comes into play with clients who start to throw away things and declutter, and they're they're on a mission. Like, they really want to get Organized, and they start just throwing everything away. And they just get everything brand new. And they spend money on these unnecessary things over and over because all they're doing is trying to liberate themselves from the dirt. And instead of really doing the cleaning piece, they're just removing items from their visual perception, like, in front of them.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:04:54]:
So it it looks like it's clean and organized, but they're really just clearing the space. They're not really organizing the space. And that could lead to frustration. Now to be fair, those these two actions are very The one of the reasons that they're very they're they're mixed up a little bit is because the actions to do both of these are very similar. So you're not mixing up reading with cleaning. I mean, those two actions and what you use from your senses are very different. With cleaning and organizing, they're the the way that you go about it is probably very similar. You are probably going to the area where you keep your cleaning supplies and your organizing supplies.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:05:38]:
You are probably doing a little bit of dusting as you're organizing. And so we start to kind of interchangeably use both of those at the same time because you're the areas where they're kept, the actions of your senses of yourself to go about and do this action are very similar. So then to be fair, that is probably why we are mixing them together. But it is important to think of them as 2 different actions, or else you will always be in this perpetual frustration of feeling like you're never clean enough or you're never organized enough. Okay. So now that we've established that they're both 2 different actions definitions and ways of making your space more joy you know, a little bit more clean and and joyful and the way that you want it to be, but that they are 2 different actions. Let's talk about what happens if you are mixing them as the same thing. If you are thinking that they're both the same thing, okay, and now what do I do to what do you do to separate both of them? So one of the things that I would suggest immediately, you you as more like an immediate action, not for you to do immediately, but for you to think about more in the immediate is for you to put the items in separate areas of some sort and then labeling them.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:06:57]:
So putting your cleaning supplies in one area, and then you're organizing supplies in another. Now this is where I understand it can get a little frustrating because when you're organizing, sometimes you do like to dust. But when you separate your duster and put it over on your cleaning side, that side of the cabinet or the or the closet, you will start to define both actions as very separate actions, and treat them as such. So that when you're organizing, you're truly sorting. You're, you know, you're truly going through. Like we have our and steps of organizing almost anything. So let's say you are following that. You are truly decluttering and sorting and finding a home for any everything.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:07:42]:
And you are not in in the middle of it all trying to also vacuum and dust and clean and make it look pretty and shiny. And then overspending your time cleaning when you should be making decisions about what to declutter, what to keep, what to donate, what and and making those types of decisions instead. And not getting so tired of the whole process because instead of organizing, you were really just cleaning, and now you now you're just tired, of course. So that is one of and of my first tips, to separate your supplies that you use for both things very separately. Like your tape measure is going to be on your organizing side. Right? Because most likely you're measuring, how big a, drawer should be or the organizing tool you're going to be using in the drawer, and all of that. So your tape measure, your and your bins, all of those things are going to go into your organizing side, and then the other in your cleaning side. And if you can separate them as far away from each other as possible, just until you get used to the the the idea that those are 2 different actions, that would be very helpful.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:08:57]:
And then the second quick tip that I have for you that you can implement immediately is that when you're organizing so for like I I mentioned earlier, we have our and steps of organizing almost anything. So you're more than welcome to use those steps. But whatever steps you end up using to organize when you lay out your plan, you know, okay. 1st, I need to do this 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th. Nowhere in there should you be putting dusting the shelves. And if you do, make sure you are highlighting or understanding that that is a different task, that that is not part of your organizing journey. I get it The especially when we're working with in kitchens, pantries, bathrooms, garages, and things like The, and we're opening a dresser or a and drawer to organize it, and we take everything out. Naturally, all The junk and gunk and dust and things in there will come out of it, right, when you're dumping the The, let's say.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:09:48]:
And so you naturally want to clean the drawer. You want to vacuum it. You want to get some cleaning spray or water and Dawn soap, and you're just scrubbing away because you don't want to be putting stuff back in that's dirty. I get that. I really do. And that is The perfect time for you to do it. Because as long as The stuff is out, let's clean this up. But that is where you start to run into overwhelm and burnout.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:10:15]:
Because now you've stepped into a different action. You've stepped into cleaning mode. And if you're the type of person that gravitates towards doing a good old clean The makes you feel good about, you know, life in general, like, it's almost like therapeutic. Right? Like, you're scrubbing away all that dirt and it's like a symbolism of life. And so for some of you, you take great gratification over The. And there is less decision making when it comes to cleaning. You can be listening to an audio book or a podcast, hopefully, us, while you're cleaning, and you don't you can pay attention. And when you're organizing, you have to pay a little bit more attention to the actions because you're making more executive decisions, like what to keep, what to not keep, what to you know, you put it on.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:10:58]:
You make sure that it fits and stuff like that. So I understand why in the hardship of the organizing steps, you insert cleaning in there, and then you kind of get lost in the cleaning. So that is why it's really important to make a plan for your organizing projects because somewhere in there, you will either just note that you're not cleaning. This is all about decluttering. This is all about Organized. And save the cleaning for another day. So make a plan. And when you are doing your organizing and or decluttering, that you don't insert the cleaning action anywhere in The, that you treat it some somewhere separate.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:11:40]:
Part of this tip is, some clients, what we'll do is we'll do, like, a whole organizing Productive. And we'll, of course, you know, do some light light cleaning. We we would not be putting something dirty back in its place. But then we will immediately have a cleaning service come and, follow our services immediately after. And sometimes even before depending on what we're doing and we're working. Like, if we're moving you to a new place, we will have the new place cleaned first. So that way, we are putting the stuff into a clean environment. So that is if you have the resources and ability, hiring a cleaning service to, clean right after you're done Organized, so that they can come in and, you know, finish and of the other side that you may not want to do.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:12:25]:
Now if you gravitate towards cleaning and for you, you are actually the opposite. You kind of just delay on the organizing side. That is when you do the other side. Right? You hire someone to come in and organize. You do the cleaning instead. And so whichever one you gravitate towards more or maybe you end up spending more time on, you know, do the opposite and then maybe they're higher or ask a friend to help you. Maybe you both have complimentary skill sets. Maybe they love to clean and you love to organize.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:12:54]:
So you both will switch maybe a space, maybe a closet, and you do you will each do each other's other parts of the cleaning Organized duo skills. In that way, you know, you can concentrate on and action at a time. Okay. So that's the end of our actionable episode. We have a couple of these ever so often where they're just short and sweet and straight to the point so that you can take action on the tips or whatever it is that we discussed. In today's case, we talked about separating both the cleaning task and skill set to the organizing skill set. Okay? And then in the next couple of weeks, we will have an expert that talks about cleaning tips. And so, hang on tight for that one.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:13:37]:
And if you have any questions or if you have questions that you want us to address in the cleaning episode, please let us know by messaging us over on social media or sending us a message at hello at The Organized flamingo.com. Until next time. Thank you for listening to the Organized and productive podcast with The Organized flamingo. If you enjoyed today's episode, I would love it if you'd leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast player. It helps with letting people know that we're here. For full show notes and resources, head on over to the Organized flamingo.com/podcast. Happy organizing.

60: Finding Common Ground: Dr. Jackie Black on Navigating Relationship Dynamics

This week we chat with Dr. Jackie Black as she shares valuable insights on navigating the challenges of living with a partner who may not share the same organizing and productivity journey. Throughout the episode, Dr. Black emphasizes the importance of understanding values, style, and temperament in relation to “stuff,” and the significance of open-hearted, respectful conversations to avoid judgment and limitations. Join us as we explore the intersection of relationships and organization, and gain valuable tools for creating harmony within our shared spaces.

In this episode we talk about:

  • Impact of Relationships on Organizing and Productivity
  • Influence of Outside “Stuff” in Relationships
  • Co-creating a home that reflects both individuals' preferences and comfort

About our guest:

  • Dr. Jackie partners with high achieving couples whose relationships are a mess, and they feel disconnected.
  • For the last 36 years, Dr. Jackie has helped more than a 1000 couples in 8 countries.
  • Through her guidance, once distant couples have rekindled their love and affection for each other and experience richer, deeper connections and romance. They express their love and caring more effortlessly, and they feel deeply loved and adored, again.
  • Dr. Jackie is also the internationally recognized go-to relationship professional for couples whose lives have been forever changed and all too often, devastated by living with life-threatening and chronic illness; and couples who are raising an ill child, a child with disabilities or a neurodiverse child.
  • Fun Fact: Dr. Jackie was named by Cosmo as one of their most beloved international love gurus.
  • She is the author of the Cracking the Code series of relationship-focused books.
  • There are four ways to partner with Dr. Jackie: The Connection Booster VIIP Day, 6-month Private Couple’s Coaching Program, 2-day Couple’s Virtual Renewal Experience, 75-minute Connection Breakthrough on Zoom: Closeness Amplified

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Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:00:00]:
Hey, listeners and friends of Organized and Productive, the podcast. Welcome to our next episode. This week, we've got a special guest, doctor Jackie Black. She is a relationship expert, a marriage educator, and board certified coach to couples, and she believes that she can make everyday feel like you're on your honeymoon. So why are we interviewing doctor Jackie Black on an organizing and productivity podcast, do you ask? Well, if you remember last year, we did something similar. But, basically, here on the podcast, we like to approach all the different angles that are related to organizing and productivity. Sometimes they're very straightforward and related to what perfect bin should you get for your closet. Sometimes it's about decluttering.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:00:48]:
Sometimes it's about family dynamics. Sometimes it's about what are the best digital tools that you should be using, what's hot, what's not, and all of our top tips. Right? But sometimes we talk about the emotional piece of it and also the relationship piece of it that gets affected when you are in your organizing and productivity journeys. And this one in particular has to do with living with someone else that may or may not be on the same journey as you are. Again, we try to do and touch this subject at least once a year so that you have the resources that can help you if that is part of what is happening. Maybe there's a disconnect. Maybe you feel like you're more tidy. Maybe you feel like you have been on this decluttering journey, but your partner has not.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:01:36]:
Or maybe you're on the other side of that where you're not ready to let go, but your partner is. This is especially true when you have life changes. They could be every anything from, new marriages and or divorces or death in the family. Maybe your children have moved to a different chapter in their life. So sometimes the partners may or may not be on the same space or same page, and that can contribute to not having a cohesive goal with your organizing journey. So that is why we invited doctor Jackie Black. I met her a couple of years ago through mutual friends on the interwebs. A very close friend of mine, she has a community of women who she supports, and she introduced me to her.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:02:23]:
And I just love the way that she discusses her the relationship piece of couples and partners. And so I thought she was a perfect person to come on and talk about this with all of us. So what she will be doing is so as you all know, we just get straight to the to the conversation. Right? So this is the introduction to who she is, and all of her information is over on the show notes. So if you want to follow along while you're listening and you wanna check her out and and just kind of see what she's all about, her information is in the show notes. We are basically just touching up up on some of how to approach a partner that may or may not be on the same journey with you in your organizing journey, some top tips that she has. And again, we do talk about both sides where you might be the person that is on an organized journey. Maybe you're minimalist and your partner is not, but we also talk about it when you're on the other side where your partner is that one person and you're not ready to engage in that.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:03:21]:
So there is no blame discussion here. We just talk about the dynamic and conversations that could be helpful to you with your spouse, your partner, or the person that you live with. So enjoy the episode. Here we go. Welcome to the Organized and productive podcast with The Organized flamingo. I am your host, Stephanie, a professional organizer and productivity expert. Ready to explore the right organizing and productivity solutions for you? Yeah? Well, then let's go. Hi, doctor Jackie.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:03:53]:
Thank you so much for joining us today. I'm so excited that you're here. As our audience knows, we get right into the nitty gritty of the conversation. Alright. So you work with relationships a lot and in people and couples and partners.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:04:09]:
Right.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:04:09]:
What is what is the relationship between stuff and ourselves and the relationship? Like, how does it all work together? Why are we talking about this, and why is it important?

Dr. Jackie Black [00:04:20]:
Right. Well, thank you so much for inviting me to be here and talk about this. This is very important because people's stuff is very important to The, or it's not important at all. It's so funny that it doesn't really there's no middle about this. So I wanna break it first into 3, buckets that I want people to consider, values, style, and temperament. And the reason I wanna talk about value, style, and temperament when it comes to stuff is that those things are pretty fixed. If you're a minimalist, you've been a minimalist as a kid, and you probably had all your underwear by colors in your drawer folded. Okay? And if you are a collector or you think about I worked for, a CEO of a multinational company, and he shared a little space between the 2 big offices.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:05:21]:
And you could see The side was Eric's side because the papers were all over and on the floor and was called the the Snoopy room or the Mickey Mouse room. I can't remember. And Berry's side of the that little space was neat as a pen. But the thing about the thing about Eric, and if you walked into his office, they had these gorgeous offices. He had stacks of paper all along the window lines. And the thing about these stacks of paper is if you came into the office if I came into the office and asked him a question about a deal, he went right to the top of the stack, the middle of the stack, the bot. He knew exactly where everything was. So I wanna talk about value style and temperament, and I wanna talk about nondjudgment of your partner.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:06:14]:
Like, no judging, no blaming, no inaccurate attributions because those of us who are minimalists and ultra, ultra neat, I just wanna own The. We could easily make attributions about messy, lazy, mindless. Oh, The right. I won't go on. You you you all know who you are out there, and you know the judgments that you make. When you're in a relationship, you can't do that. First of all, it's not accurate because we go back to talking about value, style, and temperament and the way people live in space. And it's not gonna change too much.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:07:01]:
There are ways, and we could talk about that in in a minute, there are ways that you can ask for changes around certain things. But pretty much, you really wanna understand how people live in space and decide for yourself if you're dating if that works for you, that's a fit for you. If you're married and you've been married for a long time and this is a bone of contention, are there stress or strife or upset or arguing or worse around it? I hope that you'll get some insight from this conversation so you could take a step back, take a deep breath, and relax, and really do some soul searching so that you could come up with some things that are really important to you because people are different. And when we focus on the differences, we miss the stuff that is aligned, and we miss the stuff, the uniqueness The we love so much, that yumminess that that caused us to fall in love with each other in the beginning.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:08:08]:
How permanent are these attributes? Or how is it that do you come in in a to a relationship? Do you see this often where people's values, style, and temperament are pretty are pretty set, and you shouldn't need or want to change them? Is that how permanent or not or moldable are those attributes?

Dr. Jackie Black [00:08:28]:
Not very. As we get older, sometimes our values shift or we The drops off and another one becomes important. But they they are pretty static, and we must not expect people to change. But we just can't expect people to change.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:08:47]:
Yeah. And I we a lot too, with bringing other people's stuff into your area, and now it's become yours, whether it's from a loved one that passed. So how does that how do outside influences, in this case, outside stuff that maybe you did not start off with as a relation in the relationship. How does that affect what you're talking about? I'm

Dr. Jackie Black [00:09:09]:
just gonna say 2 things about that. I had clients, who were middle aged, and they got married. And he had 2 the way she tells it, he had 2 white plastic chairs. They were leather. They weren't a fine leather. They were white. The swiveled, had high backs and arms. She hated The, and she used to talk about them as plastic chairs, which, I invited her to really think about stopping because it it was so unkind and so hurtful.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:09:45]:
And he knew that she hated them. He loved them. He had his orange juice in them in the morning and watched the weather. He read the paper. He read books on the weekends. He put his feet up. There was an element. He loved them.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:09:58]:
They were his chairs. He'd had them for a while. So they when they sat down after they worked with me for a while, they sat down together, and they came to a point where they agreed that they really wanted each other to show up in the home. Right? They wanted their home to be reflective of both of them. That took a lot of work, a lot of emotional intelligence. And so that they made this agreement, and I invite all my couples that are going through this to do The, Make an agreement that if you don't both love it, you won't buy buy it. If you come with it, get massively curious. What is it about it? Tell me where you bought it.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:10:50]:
What was the what's the story? Get people's story because you really love the person. And you might hate the chair, but there might be such a sweet story behind the chair. Or in this case, there was so much of him when he was down, right, when he was relaxing, that made him very emotionally available to her when he was sitting in these chairs. And so she was able to then take another another look at the chairs. The funny end of the story is that when they actually moved into their home, all this was happening when they were in our separate spaces. When they moved into their home, he said to her when they were talking about moving and the moving trucks coming, he said, I've decided that I'm not gonna bring the the white chairs with me. And she, again, stayed massively curious. She didn't cheer.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:11:43]:
She didn't wasn't relieved. She said, what changed your mind? Tell me what what happened for you. And that just deepens our connection when we can sort of bypass this stuff and go deeper. I have clients, and her mother recently passed away, And she inherited big chests and an armoire and a mirror that sits on the floor and all of that. So it all came over, got stuffed into their little condo, then it was moved to the garage, but that wasn't good because she was afraid it would be damaged. And I suggested that they really sit down, that they look at the furniture, and they decide it tells stories that the the the woman whose mother passed away, told stories about the furniture and what it meant to her and how she wanted to use it. Nobody had ever thought about how they wanted to use it. You You know, how do we wanna incorporate it into our lives, into our stuff? And it turned out that she didn't wanna get rid of it, and she didn't wanna use it either.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:13:02]:
She was still in the place where she wanted to have it and honor her mother, but she really didn't want to take their chest in their bedroom out and then replace it with the mother's chest. Right, when that became a question. Well, what about would that would that feel good to use it in that way? And she said, no. We bought our bedroom for so do you see what happened? So when people are actually talking about what's going on inside, what's going on emotionally, and you take it off the plane of looking at the chair or the chest, there are so many possibilities, and that's one of the takeaways that I want people to have from this conversation The it's not about The stuff. It's deeper, and it's about this stuff, but you can get beyond it, when you really focus on the person and the story and the meaningfulness of The stuff.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:14:00]:
Oh, I love that. So if that is happening now on the other side of the partner, you know, that maybe is observing that their other half is is going through something. What would be some curious, tender, phrases or questions that you would suggest. Of course, people can always reach out to you and, you know, in in your community, in your space, you have an abundance of of phrases that you offer people to use in The relationships. But for this particular when they want to start addressing it with someone where whether it's because they feel like they have too much stuff, they're becoming just it's a it's just too much for the other partner. What would be some tips or phrases that you would suggest that they could use to start approaching the conversation?

Dr. Jackie Black [00:14:50]:
Such an important question. So, I have a client who's a minimalist married to, of course, a collector. And, not bad, not on the floor, but papers in his office on his credenza, on his desk, you know, things laid up against the wall, that and of thing. And so the way that she approached him was she said, I'd like to talk to you, not not I'd like to talk to you. I'd like to talk to you about always tell your partner what it is you wanna talk to them about. I wanna talk to you about what what I consider own it, Imessage feedback. What I consider a lot of stuff stacked in your office. And I I can already tell what I'm just talking to you about wanting to talk to you.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:15:40]:
I can feel my my mouth doing stuff and my eyes rolling. And I want you to know that I'm really trying because I wanna have the most respectful, warm hearted, vulnerable conversation we can have, and it's pretty charged for me. And I'd like to do this let let's know that we're gonna probably have 2 or 3 conversation to be, and you let me know when you're available. Let's I take you know, you come in with your calendar. When can we set the first conversation? That lets the person know. So you're already coming in vulnerable. You're asking for vulnerability, but you're being vulnerable. You're owning that it's a big deal to you.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:16:29]:
You're owning your bias and the difficulty that you're and, I'm still doing that just thinking about, you know, paper stack. But and you wanna own that there are some judgments, but you're you're not gonna voice them. You're you're handling it. You're managing it. That's what adults do. Right? And you're inviting a conversation. So what happened with this couple after a number of conversations, what he kept saying is, I I'm I'm not clear. This is my office, and and I really wanna understand what your need is around my office.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:17:11]:
You know? And he'd say, I don't have papers on the kitchen table. I I don't have I don't have stuff stacked or strewn around our bedroom. And I'm really curious, and and I don't understand. So she said, that is really a good question. And you know what? I'm not sure. Let me let me take some time and think about it and do my own work around it, and then I'll come back to you. And she was so great. And what she realized was that when he was in the office, she didn't mind seeing The stuff because he was there, and it was all part of her experience with him.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:17:55]:
But when he took business trips and he was gone for a day or 2 or 5, then it was overwhelming for her. She had no idea that that was the case until he really pushed back a little, asked her for more information about her, and he could easily agree to The. And he never left stuff out on his bed. He said, I'm gonna need help. I I'm gonna need to know, is it okay if these 5 binders are here standing up? You know, what what how do you really want it to look when I'm not here? He was so generous, so gracious. And so together, over a period of a couple of days, they figured that out before his next trip.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:18:39]:
When it comes to those types of scenarios where it takes some time you know, let's one partner addresses the question and makes them twitch a little, and then there's a reply and then the back and forth. You know, how just for our listeners, just to have an and, how long do these types of things sometimes take? Like, what would is there is there a terminal like, is there a date range where you're you would suggest, like, that might be a little longer, so let's get a pre a professional involved. Like, how how many back and forths of these of what you just described would you say is

Dr. Jackie Black [00:19:17]:
Right? Formal. Not formal. Yeah. After the well, it's all negotiated because what's normal for me might not be normal for you. So it's all negotiated. So, in this case, she knew that she needed to have a change before his next business trip. In other cases, you can say, I'd like to put a time limit on this. I'd like some resolution sooner than later.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:19:48]:
What makes sense to you? What makes sense to me is a week, 2 weeks, 14 days. I I really need to have some understanding in the next day or so, and then we can execute on it. See, it it really depends on what the need is. And when you start the conversation from a very openhearted, vulnerable, respectful place, and you're not gonna judge, you're not gonna criticize, you're not gonna make demands, you're not gonna make inaccurate attributions, then all of a sudden, there are so many alternatives and options that open up. When you come already upset, then you're limited, severely limited. And your partner feels judged and not good enough or shamed, and nothing comes nothing can grow. Nothing can open up and shift in that kind of energy. Does that make sense?

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:20:47]:
It does. Absolutely. If a listener is not ready to address it yet with their with their spouse and whatnot, What are some tips that you would have for them? Now we have spouses and we have partners and people that are from both ends. The one that has the spouse that is different and the ones that know that they are the and that they've been addressed on, you know, and for whatever reason. So what are some suggestions that you would have for both types of parties that they know that the stuff in their space is creating something, a something The is clashing. What would be some some steps for them to take?

Dr. Jackie Black [00:21:27]:
I would start with a deep dive personally and do some personal reflection. What does my stuff mean to me? And walk around your house and tell yourself stories about your stuff. How does it make me feel? What are my values? What's my style? How do I show up in the world? How do I show up in the relationship? How am I living in space? How is my partner living in space that is different? So start personal reflection and temperament. Temperamental differences, always come up. We think about that as people being a morning person or a night person, or I can never be with anybody who needed to have 5 cups of coffee before they could talk. I open my eyes and my mouth at the same time, and I throw open the blinds. I love the sun. So temperamental differences come into play as well.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:22:28]:
After you do a deep dive, then think about what your best case is. You know, wave a magic wand and do some writing or some journaling or some notes on your computer. If I could make wave a magic wand, what are all the things around this topic that I would want to change, and what changes what I want to have? So that you're arming yourself with personal knowledge because we have personal knowledge and partner knowledge. My personal knowledge becomes my partner my partner's knowledge. So the more I know about myself and understand about myself, the more I can help my partner understand me. We cannot choose I mean, you can, but it it it doesn't work. So we don't want to I'll say it that way. We don't wanna die on every hill.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:23:22]:
Right? We have hills we have we wanna die on, but not not every hill. So I'll tell you a cute story. Mark and I had moved into our condo, and we were there a couple of weeks. And The morning, he usually would get up, get dressed, and leave and go into his office first. And then so but I had an early client or something, and I came back to the bedroom for something, and he made the bed. And it was a mess. So 2 things happened. 1, the first thing that and, I I listen.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:23:57]:
I'm not happy to say this. The first thing that happened was I bristled. Right? I was like, oh my god. The second thing was that I was filled with the love and appreciation and yumminess because it was so thoughtful, and we never had a conversation about making the bed. I always make the bed. He used to say that if he get out of the bed to go to the bathroom, when he came back, the bed would be made. I didn't wanna shame him. I didn't wanna hurt his feelings, so I didn't wanna fix it in case he recognized that it was fixed.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:24:33]:
So I let 2 days go by, and I said to him, I'd love to talk to you. Oh, I I said to him immediately as I left the bedroom. Oh my god. That was so sweet. I just love you so much for do and he was beaming. He was so excited, and I didn't wanna ruin that. That was so special. So 2 days later, I said, I wanna talk about making the bed.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:24:58]:
And he said, okay. And he said, you're you you're really gonna want me to do that more often. Right? I said, look. I love that you did that. It made my day and the next day. I feel so seen and so valued, so taken care of in so many ways. Here's what I would love. I would love it if you never made the bet again.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:25:20]:
And he laughed, and I laughed. And he said, I I know it was lopsided, and I couldn't get it. Blah blah blah. So we don't wanna shame our partners. We wanna value them and appreciate them, and then we really want to ask for what we want. And and and he never did. He never made the bet again, which was fine with me. It's my thing having the room look the way it looks, having the bed look the way it looks.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:25:50]:
So I'm not gonna hassle and harangue him to do it my way. I'm simply gonna do it. And this is such a big point. When when couples talk about you don't help, I want you to unload the dishwasher this way, I want you to do this or that that way. If our partners are contributing and they're participating, then it's the contribution and the participation. It's the effort. It's It's the interest. It's the actual action that we love and value that means so much.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:26:25]:
If we don't like the way we're doing they're doing it. We can't ask them to do it differently. They are bringing their way. And if the thing that you want done, me, the bed made, is more important than them making it and contributing in that way, then we have to own that. So so the question is, is this my problem? Is this your problem? Is this our problem? There are many things that Mark did that were so sweet and so lovely that I didn't have that energy around that I had around with that. And I loved that it was a reflection of who he was and how he moved in the world and in his life.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:27:14]:
What I love about what what you've said and the examples that you've placed is that it's almost the, like, the don't let the stuff get in the way of the conversations, which, you know, stuff ends up being that visual of what's probably behind the scenes of whatever you need to communicate. But what I love just of all this is that you're really showcasing that that curiosity to get a little bit more curious. Yeah.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:27:50]:
So Yeah.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:27:51]:
That's been really fun to to listen in on. What would, okay. So we, at the end of our, you know, the podcast and whatnot is because we could go on and on. I'm just right here just listening to her. Just give me all the give me all the tips. Just the tips, but the things to think about. So I hope all our listeners are are feeling the same way. Alright.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:28:13]:
So before we start to unwind with our conversation, we always like to ask our guests 3 questions. The first question is what would you like people to to take away from this conversation? With the second being, if there is something that you really enjoy, is there a magazine or a blog or something, a periodical The you really enjoy reading? We'd love to hear what you what you like to read, what you like to, what you're into, and then, of course, where people can reach you and find you.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:28:41]:
So the takeaway. I want people to focus on each other as honeys, as sweethearts, as partners and cohorts, as teammates, and to make that the centerpiece of all the conversations and to really trust that they will come to a place of agreement. Win win win. I win. You win. We win. And if all those things are not in place after any conversation, you're not finished, and you may need to have another conversation. I win you win, we win.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:29:20]:
And when you're talking about living in your home that you want both of you, you both wanna be committed to cocreating a space that you both love, that reflects both of you, and that you're both comfortable in. The magazine, the first thing that came to my mind Mhmm. Going up in Chicago and living in the desert for many, many, many years and now living in the tropics is Southern Magazine. Southern Living, I think it's called. I I just love the colors and the I I it's just a way of showing up and being in the world that I love. So that would be that would be my magazine.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:30:02]:
You know, funny you say that about what this actually goes with our conversation. I think, Southern Flamingo and The that style also has a lot of history and a lot of that connection with other people that many times comes from relationships. But it just has that intertwined relationships, You know? Anyway, it's a conversation starter as well. So I can see why that's that I I could see why you would feel connected to The that magazine. Okay. Alright. Well, where can people find you? Because there's way more of this that she has on her in her community and all her social media and all her different platforms. You should connect with doctor Jackie.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:30:42]:
So where can people find you?

Dr. Jackie Black [00:30:43]:
The website is the first obvious place, and that's doctorjackieblack.com.dr jackieblack.com. That would be in the first place. And then there are buttons throughout the website about let's talk. Let's connect. Yes. I want this. And and and I I really want to talk. I love to talk, and I love to talk to people about their relationships.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:31:08]:
And I don't enroll anybody in anything unless we have a conversation first. It's Zoom so that we can see each other. It's a little like being in my I call it being in my Zoom office. Yes. So click on that button. Go to my online calendar. And if there isn't a time on the calendar, then email me. [email protected].

Dr. Jackie Black [00:31:30]:
Let me know that you wanna have a conversation, and there's no times on the calendar. We'll just take it off the calendar and exchange a few emails and find the time.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:31:39]:
Oh, the personalization that you have is really nice, by the way.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:31:44]:
Oh, thank you. And and I I don't charge for that. And it's I say it's 30 minutes. I'm so bad about time because if I'm engaged in a conversation with you Yeah. And and I really wanna help you or understand more, The it takes whatever it takes. That would be the second thing. There's website, email me. Oh, Instagram.

Dr. Jackie Black [00:32:07]:
You know, I don't love social media. I probably shouldn't say The, but I love my Instagram, and I didn't have an Instagram until I was active with Clubhouse. And Instagram really is the place that has the best of the best. It's highly curated. Every single thing, that that I say is a quote from my intellectual property. So it really gives you a sense of how I talk and what I think. And so my my Instagram, and that that is at doctor Jackie Black.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:32:41]:
Oh, wonderful. Okay. Well, you know where to reach her. Doctor Jackie, thank you so much for your time. This was enlightening and so lovely. And, again, we could have gone on forever and ever. So don't be

Dr. Jackie Black [00:32:53]:
surprised. Such a pleasure. Thank you so much.

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59: Cracked but Not Broken: Patience with Repairs & Knowing When to Walk Away

This week, we dive straight into the topic of decluttering and mending items that we often struggle to let go of. We address two types of people who hang on to items in need of repair and provide valuable tips and resources to help listeners take action and move forward.

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Hi organized and productive community and listeners, welcome to our next episode here, this week, we've got a fast and get to the action piece of it type of episodes, which means we give you some tips on the subject of today, which I'll mention in a second. And it's all with a goal that you will implement some of these tips as quickly as possible or in the most efficient way, so that you actually go and get it done.

And you are not always on this planning phase, which is why I'm getting straight to the point. But before I do get straight to the point, after the episode it just know that I have some news and updates for for just us I think, you know, every couple of months, I just give you some updates on what's going on at the organized Flamingo so that you know where to find us what to do and all the links and all this stuff. Okay, so stay tuned if you're interested in that. All right, so this episode is dedicated to all of you who there's two types of people that people that either do declutter, you know, they declutter, often, and they have this section somewhere in their house and their space that says, to fix or to mend, meaning you declutter it, you don't need it.

And you pulled it out of your, you know, your space, like your everyday space, like your cabinets, maybe or maybe your, your closet, or whatever it may be, but you didn't fully let it go. Because you have intention of fixing it, of mending it, of altering it and saying things like, if this was not missing a button, I would wear it. If I could glue this together, it could work beautifully. And then you just kind of didn't do anything about it, because you don't know how to do it yourself, or you haven't been able to find somebody to do it for you. So that's one type of person, right? Like you are ready to let go, that's not the problem, it's just that you would like to give it one more chance. And then you've got the other camp, another types of people who do have these items. And it used to belong to somebody like a loved one, or you inherited this piece. And it's, it's with a lot of sentimental value that you're not ready to let it go to. But you also don't want to use it yourself.

Maybe you want to resell it, maybe you want to be able to see if there's another party that would want it. But they will need to fix it. And you don't want to necessarily let it go without it being fixed. And knowing that it works. Okay, so but but you don't want to wear it and you don't necessarily want to fix it for yourself. So those are the two types of people that normally we see hanging on to things in this pile of to fix and to mend later. And so this episode is all about giving you some of those resources and tips on how to move forward. So they get out of that bin out of that corner, and you actually do something about it and start the journey, whatever that stuffs journey is that is beyond the corner that is collecting dust.

So let's get to it with our tips. Welcome to the organized and productive podcast with the organized Flamingo. I am your host, Stephanie, a professional organizer and productivity expert, ready to explore the right organizing and productivity solutions for you. Yeah, well, then let's go.

Okay, so just so you know, if you are part of our community over on Instagram, you probably know that we have a series going on out there. Right now we're at the beginning, like this is February 24. But we will continue this years for a long time. And it's basically the series of, oh, I didn't know that that's how something worked, or Oh, I didn't know that you could fix it this way. And so we're showcasing different artisans and trades and people who have a very specific niche and a skill that can help you make something better. And by fixing it by giving it new life.

And that series is very short reels, you know videos, where I showcase different trades and whatnot, and how they work and where you can reach them. So head on over to Instagram also put it on our show notes on how to get to that series. But that started inspiring this particular episode. And the other inspiration was a lot of our clients, like I mentioned before, it has you know, they have this like pile of well intended things that they want to do something with, and they just haven't been able to find what to do with it or actually go and do it. We have an episode that is called should you do it yourself or outsource it. Also, we'll add it to the show notes. And that one gives you a framework that we've worked with before that makes you just question things about is this something that you're passionate about? Is this something you have the resources for? And then I give you this like YES and NO FLOW discussion, so that you can determine if it's even worth doing yourself or if you should find somebody else to do it for you. And so this is like a really good companion covers that one is a very good conversation companion to this one.

So this whole conversation Shouldn't is all about finding somebody that can either teach you how to do it yourself, and then figuring out if that is worthwhile for you. Or if you should just outsource it right? Because at this point, you're ready to take some action. So that would be my first tip. Figure out if this is something that you want to explore and do yourself, or do you in? Are you ready to just outsource it? And have somebody else do it for you? Don't think about necessarily the How much will it cost? Just right now, okay, for this particular tip, this is more about do you even if you had all the money in the world? Would you want to do it yourself? And, or the opposite? So that's my tip number one figure out, oh, man, if I had if money was not an issue, what I want to do with myself? Or would I rather just outsource it myself, because I think sometimes we get stuck into the, I'll just do it myself because we want to save money.

And then then the long run, you end up spending more time and more resources, because you are not a qualified person to do it. You're yourself anyway. And it just ended up costing you more headaches, and just more and more effort. Okay, so that's why I don't want you to focus on that for this particular tip. So answer that question. Tip number two, finding and figuring out what to do with that that stuff that you want to fix is remember that when you are fixing something that will become part of the story. And I think that is sometimes why we hesitate about having somebody else fix it like a tailor or a pollster, because once you give it to them, it may take a while you do have to be a little patient. It's not worth that is not one of those fast fashion order. And it'll be there next day. And if it is most likely, you will pay a premium price a very fair premium price because that person is now taking on your emergency.

And now they're dropping other things so that they can focus on fixing something for you or making it better. So that's rightfully so right. But as humans, we'd like to save money, we don't want to necessarily spend extra money in wait extra time for something to get fixed. So then what do we do, we ended up just not fixing it at all and figuring that, hey, you know what I can just keep go get a new one. And that's fine and dandy until you come across an item that is of sentimental value that belonged to a loved one that is an antique or vintage item that you cannot order again to buy with a click of a button. So that is where this next tip comes into play. And that is being patient and knowing that something is going to take a little longer, but that it's part of the story. I have seen so many wonderful stories and clients and community members that have told me that they're so glad that they fixed that they took the time to find someone to fix whatever it may be actually more specific, I'll get to some jeans.

The particular story here that I'm thinking of is a good friend of mine has a lot of genes I'm talking graffito, a full closets full of just jeans very big on that. But but some of them are just not fitting anymore. And so we talked about hate some of her options. And she did end up going to a denim specialist who cut some of those jeans that she already had that just were not fitting the same way. They fit up beautifully. Now she did spend, you know the money and the resources for it. And it wasn't immediate, it took a couple months for for some of them to be ready. But now that she has them, they fit like a glove, I mean, literally like a glove, it's just to her body tight. That's why you hire like a tailor, in this case for her. And it was a tailor denim specialist. So remember that this is part of the story that you fixing something is is it requires a little bit more patience. But it's part of the love and the story behind the item. So don't give up so easily. Don't think that you know don't lose your cool as they sometimes say like just because something is not done immediately.

Don't think that it's not worth it, it is it just may take a little longer and just make that a part of your story. Now my third tip is know the difference between trying to save you know the trying to save the story because you want to preserve this item. Know the difference between that and trying to save that heavy go into the trash. I mean, like we always say in most of our episodes decluttering does not mean throwing it away. I have this just side note for just a second. Most many of you know I have this love hate relationship with the word decluttering because for people when I say clutter like the declutter or just clutter itself, they immediately think that you have to throw things away. It's like this equation that somehow somewhere this interpretation happened along the way. That's not what it is. decluttering just means learning to let go of things that don't serve you and that letting go is very important because the letting go does not mean just the trash. It could be You, but it could also be, you let it go to somebody else, you donate it, you sell it, you do whatever it may be, it doesn't always just have to be throw it away, you could also store it, if you have the resources to store it and the money and the patience and the time, and you think it's worth it all power to you, and you know how to find it easily when you need it.

Well have added, it doesn't mean you have to throw it away. But for this tip, I want you to explore that about yourself. And know the difference between, I'm keeping this because I have a I really want to save this, I know there's a better life for it, there's another entire person or life that would appreciate it, whether it's yourself or somebody else. And I have the resources to do that it's not getting in the way of my life of other people that I live with, it's not becoming clutter, unnecessary clutter. And knowing the difference between that and when something is just add its last leg, it really should not be fixed, it really just should, it's time to truly throw it away, donate it or let it go. Some of these items can include sentimental items that are not causing us they're causing us more pain than happiness or relief in some way.

Sometimes it's just especially with those like, you know, related older like love letters, relationships, things like that, that, you know, that got wet or something or they got some kind of damaged and you're trying to you know, salvage it. But water damage causes mold and causes other things. And since in sometimes you're trying to keep it you think you can fix it, you can tape it together, you know, sometimes it's just time to let it go. Just knowing that difference. If you're not sure, and this is the place you get stuck, we do you have a handy dandy little keep it or toss it decision guide, it's free, I'll put it in the show notes. You can of course always call us or hire somebody or ask somebody that's an expert in that item is especially true when it comes to fabrics, clothing, especially vintage older clothing, old furniture, things that may have gotten damaged along the way, and you think you can put it together. But when you do, it won't work the same. And or it could be even more damaging. And so at that point, it might just be time to let it go.

There are some of these new siding note that I want to I want to touch upon, especially when it comes to vintage items and older items. Relics. If you find yourself with something that is truly very old, and you think that's a museum or somewhere, it could be showcased somewhere, you might ask that museum or a community of people that that collect these things and ask if somebody would want it to showcase it. Now that's an entirely different conversation. So I just I want you to make sure that you're when you're asking yourself, you know, is this even worth it? You bet you're being honest with yourself. And sometimes it's just time to let it go. Alright, so those were the three quick tips, because I want you to hopefully come join us either on LinkedIn, or Instagram where I'm talking more and more nowadays about things that could potentially be salvaged. And taking you on the journey of should you fix it should you not isn't worth it. And then taking action, which is a very important piece of it here, which is the taking action piece. And this kind of leads me into what's going on with the organized Flamingo here in our new phase.

The podcast staying this you know the same all things organizing and productivity, which I have absolutely loved the last little over a year, I'm talking about all these subject matters, you all have gotten back to me and just love that we're talking about the subject matters in different ways format. So that staying the same, but what's changing a little is that I will be focused more on the content of the sandwich generation of people that are now have now either inherited or are now in possession of things that they were not before that was not theirs to begin with. So this could be through loved ones where you had to help them declutter, and now you are responsible for all that stuff. It's the sandwich generation, which is the official term is the sandwich generation. And the definition is people that are taking care of older parents themselves, their family members and their children. I like to add that even if you don't have children, this is still your generation because you are still take care of taking care of your own life and your own self.

So it's really just more individuals that have that are caregivers that are having to take care of others and are now in possession of those things that they were not before. And that includes physical stuff. So I am really giving more content on LinkedIn and Instagram, our newsletter over those subject matters. And one of those subject matters is what we talked about today helping you find someone that can take ake those items that now are in your possession and figuring out if they're worth salvage gene, if they're, they could have another life with you. And sometimes they don't they sometimes some of those things don't. They don't belong at all in your life, you don't want them there. And so it's time to let go.

So we kind of go through that process. And I'm really focusing on that, because that is, I can see that that is something that our community needs. And you all have talked about it. So we are focusing on that with that also comes with some new services. So check out our new services page, we have some easy, just get on the call on a call with me so that we can talk about strategic plans of action. So not not just let's talk about it, but let's talk about it. And let's create a plan so that you can have a peace of mind with all this stuff. And at that, you know, have our workshops are going to look a little different, we were having these monthly workshops. Instead now we have our strategic calls. And then the workshops are going to be every couple months. So those are going to be a little different.

So check them out over on the website. But we are having free workshops for all of you now on the subject matters which I think you all will enjoy very much. So that's what's going on on in our world. And that's that's that I hope you enjoyed today's episode again, quick and easy. I hope that these quick and easy episodes that we have where I give you some tips for you to quickly implement things and answer questions. It's almost like journal prompts, and action items type of episodes so that you can kind of move on get you over the hurdle that you may be stuck in, so Okay, all right. Well, you know where to find us over on Instagram, the organist Flamingo all the places until next week, happy organizing.

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58: Staying Organized: How to Keep the Momentum Going

This week, we finish off the getting organized vs. staying organized three-party series.  We go deep into the topic of staying organized. If you've ever struggled with maintaining order and structure in your life, we provide valuable insights on the difference between getting organized and staying organized, as well as practical tips to overcome common hurdles. From understanding the importance of defining what staying organized means to documenting what works and giving yourself grace, we share our expertise on how to keep the momentum going in your organized journey. So, if you're ready to gain clarity on staying organized and finding sustainable solutions, then join us in this enlightening discussion.

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In this episode we talk about:

  • Why it’s important to understand the term STAYING organized
  • How to avoid frustration when getting and staying organized
  • Having your organizing journey fit into your lifestyle

Mentioned in this Episode:

Episode 053: Getting Organized vs. Staying Organized Explained

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/53-getting-organized-vs-staying-organized-explained/

Episode 011: The Science of Procrastination: Why We Do It and How to Stop with Dr. Susie Castellanos Hensley

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/11-the-science-of-procrastination-why-we-do-it-and-how-to-stop-with-susie-castellanos-hansley/

Episode 001: 7 Steps to Organizing (almost) Anything

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57: Dealing with Anxiety: A Conversation with Dr. Lauren Cook

In this episode we welcome guest Dr. Lauren Cook to discuss anxiety. Dr. Cook, a clinical psychologist, author, consultant, and speaker, shares practical insights on handling anxiety in the context of organizing and productivity. The episode explores Dr. Cook's book, “Generation Anxiety: A Millennial and Gen Z Guide to Staying Afloat in an Uncertain World,” emphasizing the importance of empowered acceptance and taking tangible actions to live a meaningful life despite anxiety.

In this episode we talk about:

  • Empowered acceptance, emphasizing the need to accept and navigate anxiety while still pursuing a meaningful life
  • Tips for those dealing with generational anxiety and explores the complexities of setting boundaries and maintaining self-care in caretaker roles
  • Tips on how to embrace discomfort when letting go of possessions, and making intentional choices

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Book: “Generation Anxiety: A Millennial and Gen Z Guide to Staying Afloat in an Uncertain World” by Dr. Lauren Cook – Amazon Storefront  HERE

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IG: https://www.instagram.com/dr.laurencook/

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Stephanie
Hey friends, and welcome to our next episode here at organized and productive the podcast. I'm Stephanie, your host, and today we have a very special guest, Dr. Lauren Cook, she is talking to us all about anxiety, and what to do about it when that comes into play. More specifically, of course, since we talk about organizing and all things organizing and productivity, she is talking to us about what happens when those feelings arise, what is something that you could be doing about it? When those feelings do come up? She is a clinical psychologist, she is an author. She is a consultant, and speaker and talks all about the mental well being of people of when we are in just in our everyday lives, right. And so she's a very practical person, she understands that these things happen and are happening to us. And so she and with us, and so what can we do about it. So she just wrote a book as well called Generation anxiety. If you haven't read it, I would highly recommend it. Even if you're not the generation that she she talks about the most in the book. The book is it's the subtitle is a millennial and Gen Z guide to staying afloat in an uncertain world. And even though in the book, she does focus on that generation, I promise you, all generations can get something out of it. She's just such a practical person. And she was just perfect for this episode. I met her a once upon a time back in the app called clubhouse came across her her content and her values and the way she approaches these very, very tough conversations and very tough feelings. And I loved her approach. And I think she's a wonderful person to be talking to our community about this. So check out her book, I, you know, you have those books that you read, where you highlight the important quotes, and especially, you know, since I do the podcasts and stuff, so once in a while, I'll highlight things that I want to bring to you. And this is one of those books that I swear I could have just highlighted the entire book. And then you know, which would have defeated the whole purpose of highlighting, but that's how good it was just because she gives so many good examples that I think are relatable for, from what I have heard from clients from the community. So I hope you enjoy the conversation with Dr. Lauren cook. Welcome to the organized and productive podcast with the organized Flamingo. I'm your host, Stephanie, a professional organizer and productivity experts ready to explore the right organizing and productivity solutions for you. Yeah, well, then let's go. All right, wonderful. Well, as everybody knows, we dive right into with our guests. And I'm so happy that you're here. Dr. Cook, this has been a dream of mine to have you on the podcast, even before I had the podcast, to be honest, are just so amazing. So we are just going to dive right in it. And the first question I'm going to have for you is What does inviting mean to the average listener? listener? And when is it a cause of concern? Like, let's talk about the elementary version of anxiety,

Dr. Lauren Cook
literally. So anxiety really, at its core, it comes back to control and a fear of not being in control. Right. And sometimes we can want to control so many different things, whether it's the possessions in our house or relationships. But in essence, working through anxiety is realizing oh, there's a lot I actually can't control in my life and that journey of making peace with it. Now to your second piece of the question, when do I know if it is maybe problematic, or I might need help for this. Really a hallmark of it is the worrying feeling out of control. We all have worries, right? We all have things sometimes that keep us up at night a little bit. But when the worrying feels out of control when it's affecting our sleep, when we're noticing it's been happening longer than six months, that it goes beyond just a life change. If we're noticing more restless, we're on edge. We're noticing physical symptoms, right? Like oh my gosh, we could talk so much about like GI issues and stomach issues that relate to anxiety. Anxiety often very much manifests physically. So if you're noticing physical symptoms, these can all be cues, the anxiety is running amok, and we might benefit from some support.

Stephanie
Okay, all right. So that's where we're at. We're gonna start from here. So how can someone differentiate between disorganization due to a personality trait? Or you just don't know how, and disorganization because it's either anxiety induced or it's or vice versa, whichever comes first, like, how can anxiety affect people's organizing journey and decluttering or any of those?

Dr. Lauren Cook
So one of the biggest features of anxiety is that it leads to avoidance because anxiety is uncomfortable. We don't want to feel it right. And especially with something like organizing, we have to actively face that discomfort, right? Even though we know on the flip side going through that process, it can feel really good But starting out on the journey can feel very uncomfortable. So a lot of us we avoid we put off, let me not deal with this. And then the piles just build up and up and up, right, and then it feels even more overwhelming. So this really leads into a very negative feedback loop for people where they see that the more avoidance they do, the harder it feels to begin the organizing process. And then it just it cycles from there.

Stephanie
You mentioned in your book, which we'll talk about in just a second, too. But you mentioned in your book, the OCD piece with anxiety. And can we talk a little bit about kind of the relationship between all of these, I guess, sides or silos?

Dr. Lauren Cook
Yeah, yeah. So we were just talking about this before we hit record, right that it's really interesting. You look at the DSM, the Diagnostic Statistical Manual that we use for diagnosis anxiety has its own section, right? That's where you see things like social phobia, social anxiety, in essence, generalized anxiety, panic disorder, agoraphobia, people who struggle to leave their homes or be in big spaces. OCD is actually in a whole different set of the DSM, where we also see things like skin picking, body dysmorphia, hair pulling, and data hoarding disorder. So there's a framework that is happening here. And that's that's not by happenstance that we see that really in essence with OCD, obsessions, compulsions, you see the brain really getting into this obsessive state, right. And it can be all kinds of different things. And then we often want to carry out this compulsive behavior, and that we think is going to relieve our anxiety make us feel better. But the problem with this is that it just perpetuates the cycle even more. And this is what can happen with hoarding, for example, where people can feel these obsessive thoughts, right, they feel like I need to keep these things. There's so much attachment to these things. If I let go of these things, I'm going to have a lot of pain with it, right? And it's really wanting to avoid that pain. So so much of the work is teaching folks, we can sit with the distress of this, it is okay to feel discomfort in our brains and bodies. We've been so socialized I think, especially in the last 50 years with everything from McDonald's Happy Meals, be happy, right? Don't feel uncomfy discomfort. And yet a lot of life is about experiencing discomfort. So so much of the work I imagine you do Stephanie with your clients is helping people learn that it's okay for us to feel a little bit of that uncomfortableness. When we're making some changes and adjustments. That's how you really start to break that reporting cycle. And also that OCD cycle, in essence, it's sitting with discomfort, so good,

Stephanie
okay. And if they're sitting with uncomfortableness look different. And I'm assuming it can, but what, with different generations? And if so, how? How does that different between the different generations, like if you're younger versus older? Oh,

Dr. Lauren Cook
I mean, it's different generationally, it's, so everybody has their own unique flavor of anxiety, right? Interestingly, the most common anxiety diagnosis is actually phobias. So, and I, myself am very open about my own experience with a meta phobia, which is a phobia of vomit, it's real fun to work with. But, you know, it does look so different for different people sometimes, like, especially as we're talking a little bit about recording today, the anxiety can be very much attached to physical things, right to possessions, we can attach a lot of worth and meaning to the these things. And actually, we can get a lot of comfort out of these things. So to not have them can feel very threatening to our psyche. And in fact, I heard the other day 40% of people, adults have some kind of security blanket cuddly that they sleep with. I may be guilty of this myself, Stephanie, you too. You too. Okay. I feel less alone, when I heard that. I was like, kind of makes sense. So we can attach a lot to that, right? A lot of times I see folks where their anxiety is very physical. I mentioned that in the beginning of the show where they may experience panic, they may experience a lot of nausea. I mean, we see that 60% of people with IBS also have generalized anxiety disorder. That's not by chance, I don't think and then you have books where the anxiety especially for young adults, it can be much more social. They have anxiety about speaking up in class, they have anxiety about dating. Fascinating trends right now happening within Gen Z, you see their dating numbers, plummeting, like the amount of sex that high schoolers are having right now is not what it was when you and I were in high school. A lot of that is tied to social anxiety and especially Gen Z not getting the same level of socialization and social skills that previous generations had. Yeah,

Stephanie
that is very interesting. And I can see. So I see it more in the the different generation, and then they're passing on their generational anxiety, which you talk about in the book. So how is that? How do you see this playing out with the generation now, you know, whether it's Gen Z, or just kind of the younger generations, I guess, and then passing the and then just having to be careful about passing it on? Or how, how do you see this all play out? Whether it's for physical stuff or not? Because I think sometimes they're tied together. Yeah,

Dr. Lauren Cook
I do write about this a lot in the book about generational trauma, and really interesting study that came out a few years back about how, you know, older generations are trying to protect younger generations by saying, these are all the things you should be aware of, these are the things you should be scared of look out for. And while this was done with very good intentions, what they found is that those kids who receive that kind of information, had worse mental health, because they were just on hyper alert all the time. And we saw that, you know, there was a lot of privilege that happened for kids, where maybe there was not generational trauma in their families, and they grew up kind of seeing the world a little bit as their oyster, you know, with their rose colored glasses. They actually had better mental health. So that's hard to sit with, right? Because you look at the realities of folks who have endured trauma. And we have to validate that experience, right? Like, it makes sense that they are trying to protect those coming after them and their families. And yet, we also, is there room for the both end of looking at the strengths of still holding hope in the world, right? That there can be good things that can happen there can be changed, that happens for the better, so that our kids don't grow up automatically assuming the world is at that place. People are not here to support me. And then they, you know, show up differently in the world. So that's, that's a really complex study. That is like, it's tough to sit with the realities of that. But I think we do need to take a look at it. And I would say like, also in this, we need generations to come together, we need more generational connection, you look at the fact that Gen Z like does not even want to answer a voicemail. Like if you knew the amount of times I give my clients exposures to just call their grandma. So we need more connection with you know, people of all different ages on both sides. I just heard today actually on an article that we are more likely to have global catastrophe in the next 10 years due to misinformation and disinformation than a climate crisis. And that tells me we've got to be having more conversation with each other so that we're seeing less of this division. Yeah, there's two

Stephanie
things that you talk about to in the book that are tied to this. And that's the different layers, like you just mentioned, that there's those cultural layers, whether you were in a bracket that you have extra layers to work to address this. And just not be naive, that it's like a one answer to all that there are different layers, way more layers now, whether it's cultural differences, generational differences, and all that. And that that is a thing. And to be aware of that, that I think for so long, we just always assumed it was when it was me know, my parents were like that they grew up in the grandparents, whether it's depression, or but that's like very, very cultural based. I mean, if you grew up with the parents that didn't grow up in the economic times of the US, or the United States, as we, you know, we live here, but if that didn't happen, they're bringing their own layers. And so I love that you talk about being aware of those things for yourself and your community around you. So I love that. And it's like, sometimes it's physical stuff and sometimes mental stuff. So that you address that. Okay, so as we talk about the kind of the lack of a better word baggage that may come from, from this and that people are carrying that could potentially be carrying physically, mentally, all that, what are some tips that you would have for people that are experiencing this really heavy load of I want to move and make progress in, in my organizing journey, but it's more than just stuff organizing, just like I want to be like feeling free, feeling lighter, which is really what organizing it is being able to find the things you need when you need it and you need that lightness to it right. What are some tips that you have for some people that are listening that are feeling this to their core that they have this type of anxiety? Or what are some resources if they if they're listening, thinking I think it's deeper than just the declutter Quick Fix decluttering session? Yeah,

Dr. Lauren Cook
yeah. Okay, few things here, I write about this a lot and generation anxiety. And this this idea of empowered acceptance, which is very counterintuitive to people, a lot of people are so set on trying to make their anxiety go away. And they may even be using organizing to try and do that, right, what is one more thing I can do to stop my anxiety, and then feeling so disappointed when that doesn't work? Right. So it's actually learning to accept, you know, what, I do feel anxious sometimes, or a lot of the time, and that's okay. A lot of my work with folks is actually walking them through the grieving process of that. Oh, you mean, I'm gonna feel anxious, like throughout a lot of my life. And I'm sure you have those conversations with your clients, too, of like, oh, organizing may not always be a quick fix to the discomfort. It's learning to accept, like, yeah, I feel anxious, I feel sad sometimes. And I can still live a meaningful life. Like that is the key message. Do not let your anxiety stop you from living your life, right? I write a lot about that of like, my anxiety around, you know, with vomit around being pregnant and having a baby like, and if you don't struggle with this, you can listen to this and be like, Girl, what is your issue, get over it. But anxiety is not rational, right? Hoarding is not rational, this anxiety can be so powerful that it defies logic sometimes. And it's really saying to ourselves, you know, what, I do feel this way. And I still choose to do this next other thing in my life, that's where the Empowered piece is really important. You have to take action. I'm a big behaviorist as a psychologist, mindset is not enough. You can't think yourself into organization, you can't think yourself into just taking that next goal that you want to do, you have to actually physically do the steps. And so that's where I'm always inviting my clients of like, what are the tangibles we can do, because that's how we actually get the brain to buy in that we can make chains. It's where we actually show ourselves that we made the change, like

Stephanie
the actual doing, where would you recommend people? Okay, if they feel that this is clicking? What are some resources? Where would you send people to just get that either whether it's diagnosed or help, and of course, I know you're available and your book is available, but like, what are some key words that people could look up or go to? If they're feeling like this is a trouble spot for

Dr. Lauren Cook
them? So many good things, okay. And yes, I am in the process of right now just licensed in California, but it's really cool. You know, women psychology, we have this thing called sai pact, where you can get your license in other states. So that's exciting how we're starting to see telehealth totally transformed the field of psychology, Psychology Today, therapy, Dene, lots of really great search engines to find providers. So I really recommend people do that. If people go to my page on Instagram at Dr. Lauren cook, you can see all kinds of different resources listed there that I really recommend people check out. I will say this, because I think within the field, it's very westernized, right of like, go to therapy or get medication. And both are obviously great things. But I think we're missing so much of talking about generational wisdom and cultural wisdom, different things that work for different people, right? Everything from acupuncture, chiropractor, sound baths, all these different things. Use these to your advantage. I will tell you, the person who helped cure my panic attacks, not cognitive therapy. It was my naturopath, Dr. Sarah Norris, I give her shout outs all the time, because she really helped me get my body and my gut back in check. And so much of anxiety is so physically based. I mean, the research coming out about the gut brain connection, everybody read this as your brain on food by Dr. Money I do, if you struggle with this, we're just at the precipice. I think they've seen, what we eat, what we drink, how this affects how we feel in our bodies and our anxiety. So it may even look like for you talking to a nutritionist, talking to a naturopath, getting your bloodwork done all these different things to get data on your body. It's not just healing the neck up, we want to do a holistic approach to our healing.

Stephanie
I mean, I'm over here if you're not watching us, I'm just like shaking it. Yes, if I had a pom pom, I would be raising that as well. Yes, yes. And it's finding so much about yourselves. And since we have quite a bit for one of our last questions here, since we have quite a bit of caregivers, caretakers not just as a rental role but also caring for Um, elder generations, you know, the sandwich generation, if you will, since we have quite a bit of less listeners, a question that I got asked, that came directly from them was, okay, you know, I'm in a good spot with my journey. But now I've either inherited or I'm inheriting things we help quite a bit of people with with that, whether their loved one is alive, you know, or, you know, has has passed, but the feeling of anxiety from other generations like is that some so if your children or your parents need help, because they've got the anxiety? Is this something that you would suggest they approach? You know, if you'd like some quick tips, I know it probably we could go like, that's a whole episode of its own. But if they're if it's the caretaker, what is like an advice that you would give them so they could just start this journey in their, their health

Dr. Lauren Cook
a little more? Yeah, we could talk about this one all day. And let me just start by saying it is complicated. It is not a one size fits all approach here. Every relationship is different, right? Because you may be trying to set boundaries with, you know, the person you're helping taking care of, and they're like, No, you can't do XYZ, and then you kind of feel like your hands are tied, right? So Oh, yes, sure, we can see on the surface set boundaries with your loved ones. We know realistically, that is hard to put into action, right? So a lot of times, it looks like the self care for yourself, sometimes having what we call a little bit of a healthy detachment. And knowing that it can change and will change as the relationship as time evolves, right? But having a healthy detachment of like, okay, I want to help you in this. I want to respect your autonomy in this too, right? And how can we still kind of meet in the middle in a way where I'm not getting overly enmeshed in this relationship, I'm still looking after my own self care, but also not feeling taken advantage of at the same time. And that can mean some uncomfortable conversations. But I will say this in all of it, don't avoid, because a lot of times, we can avoid having these uncomfortable conversations, because we don't want to make someone mad. But then if we don't even have the conversation to begin with, then we're not getting data about what we can do to move forward. Right? And it may not be the answers we want, but at least we know the answers. A lot of us were playing these conversations out with our loved ones without actually having them. So give yourself the chance to at least have the conversation and then you can adjust based on the data you're getting. If all of that I don't know if any of that makes sense. Oh, Trump knows.

Stephanie
I just could think of so many examples where like, you would have been like, did you even ask them? Did you you know, I've, you know, had so many amazing clients and people I'm in and they have like, these thoughts, which are all very valid. But I can now with you saying that comment, I couldn't even see you saying, Well, if you ask them, they may be ready to release and let go and get help. And you just are so you know, you're so careful about asking or, you know, whatever may have happened in the past that you don't want to and you have no data to go off of. So

Dr. Lauren Cook
people surprises all the time. Yeah.

Stephanie
That's so good. Okay. Well, we could go on forever. So in for anyone that doesn't know. So she, she, I love for you to talk about your book really quick, and what the book is all about which I kind of give some hands in the intro. Just so everybody knows, I basically highlighted the entire book. This is one of those books that it was pointless for me at some point to just highlight because I just wanted to call it like, you know, highlight and sticky note everything. And at that point, it was just so good that that it was just worth my highlighter, like being all yellow. So what is the book all about? And then we'll head to our favorite questions that we get to ask all of our guests.

Dr. Lauren Cook
I love it. So generation anxiety. It's called the millennial and Gen Z guide to stay afloat in uncertain times. But I really think this book has value no matter how old you are. It's really teaching people how to implement this idea of empowered acceptance, taking action in your life in a meaningful way to still live the life you want to live. Even if you feel anxious, and it's also really breaking down why are we so dang anxious right now? You're not imagining it we are seeing more people struggling with anxiety than ever before. I will say to the book is all about holistic healing like I was mentioning earlier, it is not just taking a cognitive heavy approach which I very much still value, but it's really healing holistically which gets me very excited. So I hope this will be a helpful resource for people. You can buy it wherever you like to buy your books.

Stephanie
Oh, so good. Okay, so awesome. Okay, let's talk about your have a favorite magazine or indoor blog. We're just gonna go right into the fun things here. What is a blog or of Paper Magazine? If you still like the paper that you just have always loved and read no matter what, oh,

Dr. Lauren Cook
this one. So I am a huge tea fan. I love drinking tea. My mom subscribes me to this magazine called Tea Time. And my mom and I grew up, we would always go to teas together. It's still something we love to do. So this magazine, they send you like tea recipes, and oh, it's so much fun. So really get yourself coffee a tea time?

Stephanie
Yeah. Is it? Is it a monthly?

Dr. Lauren Cook
I think it's quarterly but very much look forward to when it arise. How fine

Stephanie
okay, I'm looking it up. I do love my tea, too. So I'm looking that one up. All right. What is it? What is something that you would want people to take away from this conversation?

Dr. Lauren Cook
To embrace the discomfort, all its capacities, the discomfort of tough conversations, the discomfort of letting go of things, right, the discomfort of seeing something we want to buy and not getting it for ourselves, right of really asking like, yep, that dopamine hit when I bite is going to feel so good. Do I really need it and leaning into the discomfort that that comes in all its different ways and seeing how that can actually be such a good thing for us. So good.

Stephanie
Well, Dr. Cook, this has been lovely. I am so excited for everything that's to come. Where can people reach you? Where can they find all of these goodies of information that you have to offer? Yeah, so

Dr. Lauren Cook
I'm at Dr. Lauren cook.com. I do a lot of speaking with companies teams. So if that's something that you want for your group, let me know. All kinds of fun free goodies on Instagram and Tiktok at Dr. Lauren cook.com. But say hi, give a shout out. I'd love to get to know your listeners. Stephanie. I'm a longtime fan. We go all the way back to the days of clubhouse. So this is just so so thrilling for me to get to spend some time with you today.

Stephanie
It will thank you again for your time. And until next time, everybody. Thank you for listening to the organized and productive podcast with the organized Flamingo. If you enjoy today's episode, I would love it if you'd leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast player. It helps with letting people know that we're here are full show notes and resources head on over to the organized flamingo.com/podcast Happy organizing.

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56: Tackling the Hurdles of GETTING Organized

In this episode we explore the difference between “getting organized” and “staying organized” concepts, concentrating on the GETTING organized side.  We offer insights and tips for navigating through the common pitfalls and challenges when trying to get organized. From creating designated holding spaces to trying out different organizing systems, we provide practical advice for viewers looking to start and finish their organizing projects successfully. Tune in to gain valuable insights and strategies for effectively tackling your next organizing project.

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In this episode we talk about:

  • Dig deeper into getting and staying organized
  • Tips on how to avoid or fix common pitfalls when trying to get organize
  • Why it’s important to distinguish between GETTING organized and STAYING organized

Mentioned in this Episode:

Episode 053: Getting Organized vs. Staying Organized Explained

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/53-getting-organized-vs-staying-organized-explained/

Episode 011: The Science of Procrastination: Why We Do It and How to Stop with Dr. Susie Castellanos Hensley

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/11-the-science-of-procrastination-why-we-do-it-and-how-to-stop-with-susie-castellanos-hansley/

Episode 001: 7 Steps to Organizing (almost) Anything

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/7-steps-to-organizing/

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55: Incorporating Technology In Our Organizing Journey with Lauren Barnes

This week, we have Lauren Barnes who talks to us about the practical aspects of leveraging technology, specifically artificial intelligence (AI), in organizing and productivity.  Lauren shares insights into understanding AI and its role, emphasizing the importance of not only adopting technology but using it effectively in daily workflows.

In this episode we talk about:

  • The definition of technology and AI
  • The combination of human judgment and technology
  • Tips for embracing technology easily and slowly but effectively when trying to get more organized

Lauren Barnes, the founder of Zorya Rose, specializes in empowering women and gender-diverse business owners, and business owners with ADHD, through accessible and user-friendly technology. With a decade in the tech industry and expertise in user experience, she has a unique perspective on optimizing business processes through customized software and digital tools. 

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Web: https://zoryarose.com/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/zoryarose/

https://zoryarose.com/your-path-business-tech/ (Quiz with free workbook based on your business tech approach)

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54: Celebrating One Year & Answering Your Organizing Questions

This week, we're celebrating the podcast’s first year!  In this special episode, we're tackling YOUR most burning questions about organization and productivity. 

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In this episode we talk about:

  • When your feeling overwhelmed by the mountain of “stuff”
  • What storage solutions should you use
  • Sustainable systems for long lasting order
  • Digital Clutter vs. Physical Clutter
  • Dealing with family resistance to organizing

Mentioned in this Episode:

Episode 001: 7 Steps to Organizing (almost) Anything

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/7-steps-to-organizing/

Episode 024: Step 5: Contain. What Types of Containers Should You Get?

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/24-step-5-contain-what-types-of-containers-should-you-get/

Episode 053: Getting Organized vs. Staying Organized Explained

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/53-getting-organized-vs-staying-organized-explained/

Episode 007 Digital Space vs. Physical Space Organizing

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/2-digital-space-vs-physical-space-organizing

Episode 016: Living with an Unorganized Partner: How to Avoid Frustration

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/16-step-3-decluttering-decluttering-your-home-for-a-happier-healthier-you/

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Hey there, welcome to our one year anniversary episode. Okay, if you are counting and following along, you probably noticed that this episode is labeled episode 54. And there's 52 weeks in the year. So how is this the one year anniversary episode? Well, we are calling our air date or episode, anniversary date, and that was January 30, of 2023. And this one is airing on January 29 2024. So this is as close as we get to the official one year of the podcast being released. So that is why this one is the one year and I'm so excited, I cannot believe it's been a whole year really, truly just went by so fast. We have now recorded 54 episodes, all original, we have not had any reruns. So truly, this entire year has all been original material. And we have we had 14 Total guests, we did a showcase of all of our 2023 guests back in the episode that got aired earlier, actually later in 2023. So you can go back to that. And it gives you a glimpse of all of the guests that we had for 2023. And there are topics for the entire year. So if you want a quick rundown of what topics we touched with our, with our guests, then you can head on over there and listen to that episode. I'll also put it in the show notes. So for this episode, since we already did a showcase of all of our guests, we're actually doing the top six questions that I had been asked in the last year from our community, people that messaged us to from the podcast, all of you listeners, some of you will message us and ask us for either tips or follow ups from some of the conversations. And so I picked, I basically put them all in one worksheet and then grabbed the top six ones that were asked the most. So I'm going to read through the questions, real quick questions, and then give you my take on that. And that's how we're going to celebrate this one year anniversary episode. Thank you all so much for being here. And being part of our community. And being a listener. We are a top 100 episodes, podcast in our field and in our industry, which is so exciting. And every week, I see the downloads just growing and growing. So I am forever thankful for all of you who have been here from the get go, but also the ones that have shared our episodes with your family, friends community and have joined us along the way. So thank you so much. You can always find us at the organized Flamingo over on the social media webs interwebs and say hello there. And hope I get to meet some of you in person as well. All right, so let's get to our top six questions that have come from all of you. Here we go. Welcome to the organized and productive podcast with organized Flamingo. I'm your host, Stephanie, a professional organizer and productivity expert, ready to explore the right organizing and productivity solutions for you. Yeah,

well, then let's go. For our first question, we've got the one on one of organizing questions, the one that I get asked the most, not just from the last year, but probably throughout my entire career. And the reason most people you know, end up hiring us, but even if they don't hire us, this is the part that really where people get really gets stuck. And that is where do I even start? And my answer to this is that this is such a classic for overwhelmed clients and people that are new to the organizing process, that I would suggest to break down the big task, the one that's overwhelming you. And big really is whatever it biggest for you. For some of you. A big organizing task is physically large, like a large room, a large area, like maybe a garage or a whole basement, maybe you're decluttering for your family and you're downsizing, big can be also a drawer. So whatever big and overwhelming feels to you that is something you're going to break down in smaller manageable steps, and then prioritize those projects based on what your needs are. We have here at the organized swimming go, we have our seven steps of organizing almost anything. And it is our framework that helps you answer this very question like how do I even break this down? So I am putting the seven steps of organizing almost anything in the show notes. Please listen to that episode if you if this question was relevant to you. And then from there, each of the steps we have seven steps. Each one has its own podcast, a podcast episode devoted to it. So step one, assessing step two, step three, all of them will have its own entire breakdown. But if anything, at least listen to the overview one and that will help you figure out So how can you break down this really large task and make it into more manageable steps? So it doesn't feel so overwhelming, and then go from there? The second question that we get asked the most, and God asked the most last year was, what storage solutions should I use? Oh, my goodness, if I showed you my inbox, especially the social media inboxes, where people will, you know, kind of just message you on a whim. You would be not surprised, maybe surprised at how many people ask this very question like, Okay, what is your most favorite? If you had to choose one? Storage Solution, one container? Which one? Would it be? Oh, my goodness, I cannot answer that in just a simple answer. Because it really depends, as a whole. So in the seven steps of organizing almost anything, we devote an entire step to containers and storage solutions, because of this very top question that gets asked, the short answer is, of course, that it depends. But just know that your storage solutions can and will probably change throughout your your life. Okay, so don't get so stuck on having one thing. What one of my top tips that I have for this, though, is because knowing that most people do change, organizing sort of illusions and containers, sometimes because they just wither away, especially in those areas, maybe outside areas, I mean, we hope that you get a really good item, right that like lasts forever and ever. But because a lot of these products do wither away my top, my top tip is just get something that is of good quality. Because even if they wither away, it's going to last you a long time. So that's a plus. But even if you are ready for change, and you don't necessarily need it to live a long life, that way you can resell it, either resell it or give it away and it just won't end up in the in the trash or landfill so easily. When you have a good quality product when it comes to storage solutions, you can at least get it get some value back in some way, shape or form, whether it's because you resold it, or you gifted it or gave it to somebody else that could use it again and again. So that would be one of my top answers for this. Get something of good quality that is within your budget that is within your needs. But that will last you as long as possible. The third question is how can I stay organized in the long run. So this actually came in very timely because we are doing our get versus stay organized series. As as I'm recording this, there is a concept called getting getting organized versus staying organized, which is two very different distinct actions when you're getting organized. Where getting organized is more project based. It's it's a short. It's a short project, I mean doesn't, it could be a long time project. But it's it has a middle, beginning, a middle and an end, right. It's a project where versus staying organized is all about habits and staying organized in the long run. So it's less project and more habits and more light, like the way that you live your life, the everyday actions that you make to stay organized versus just like a quick fix. So listen in on that it should be we are airing this in the one year anniversary and the get and stay organized series is within these episodes. So you should be easily able to find it. I'll also put it in the show notes. But to answer this question in this short episode, it basically has everything to do with developing sustainable systems that fit within your lifestyle, which is also known as habits, things that are very organic to the way that you move the way that you live. So what that means is don't necessarily force a system or a it's like something that you're trying to be if it doesn't feel natural, and if you don't think it's sustainable for you to keep up the habits. An example of this is we just talked about containers, right? Sometimes for trend, you know, for trend purposes, there's going to be a container or a style that's very, very popular. And let's say clear bins right for a long time, and those have been around for a long time. But they became they really got popularized in the last couple of years and so everybody loved them. But if you are someone that gets overwhelmed easily with visual clutter, then for you that might not work because that's just a lot a lot for you to to look at all the time and it overwhelms you instead of helping you get organized. Another example is for those of you who like having a labeling system that's very, that tells you where things go where things are supposed to go back to but for some People that is overwhelming, especially if you didn't create the system, then a label doesn't mean much for you, you have to actually embrace the label, understand what it means and then use it right or else that just won't mean anything. So that is my biggest tip for how to stay organized in the long run, develop something that is sustainable, that really works with your natural habits, and then build off of that over BJ Fogg in his book, and also atomic habits by James clear, BJ Fogg has the tiny habits. And both of those books are great books to pick up the top all about habit stacking, and really just doing little by little, which is something that we have tried and we understand, really is helpful when you build upon the habit like little by little by little, and then it just becomes part of who you are. Our first question is all about digital clutter. And someone like the someone specifically asked, How do I handle digital clutter. And then the other questions were a, like a branch off of that. So we'll just talk about digital clutter as a whole, right? digital clutter is very, very similar to physical clutter. And it means that you have so much stuff that you can't find what you need easily when you need it. And if you are at that place, then you have clutter, and it could be physical or digital clutter. And when it comes to digital clutter, it's such a, it's a hard one to see the, the red flags of you becoming clutter cluttered, because you can't see it, because digital files digital stuff doesn't really accumulate the same way visually, the way that physical stuff does. And there's actually an entire episode where we talk about physical clutter versus digital clutter. So I'll put that in the show notes as well. But because of that, you can really, really, that could like really start to accumulate in you don't even know it, there are no Telling Signs, until your program or your computer or your phone or your device says to you, hey, you ran out of storage, or something breaks because you just it's been running so hard. So how do you handle digital clutter, I would this is one of those places where I would really encourage you to have a maintenance calendar, and check in on your memory, and your hardware. So do this every quarter and commit to deleting say, you know, certain amount of files or getting to a certain amount of storage every single quarter. So let's say you know, your storage is one gig. So just make sure that every quarter, you are like no more than 75% of that, right. So that or whatever that magic number is depending it works a little different if you're using your phone versus your computer and stuff, but come up with something that that works for you and do a maintenance every so often and make sure you're under that threshold. So it doesn't all of a sudden surprise you and then you feel like you have to throw stuff away that you weren't even prepared to do so. And then also so it doesn't creep up so fast. And you can actually see where all your files are, you can do some quick decluttering by going to what your biggest files are, and then delete from there. That's obviously a really quick way you can also look for duplicates, of files of words, and then you know, declutter from there. So that would be my biggest step, have a maintenance schedule for your digital files, because those are the things that you don't see until they become a problem. Okay, the next question number five, was, and is one of our top questions. But I'm not fully equipped to answer it. But I'm including it in the podcast because we have a podcast episode from last year with Dr. Dar that talks about this, and we will address it again later this year with another guest. But the question is how can I deal with family resistance to change and the reason so we are equipped to work with the family unit. But once people hire us, it's because the family unit has agreed to get help. And to declutter and to clear out. We worked with a lot of families in that sandwich generation where there's a multigenerational decluttering going on, you know, they either inherited stuff from their family members are starting to inherit stuff, downsize, and they have their own stuff as well. That's the sandwich generation, you're kind of in the middle between raising your own family, yourself and then also your loved ones that may be like your older parents or elders. And so you're just kind of stuck in the middle and there's just a lot a lot of stuff. And when it comes to family resistance, so we we work with those types of families, but in order for all of the parties to come into a place where they're ready for this, there's a lot of pre work that happens and so that's why That's the part that we're not necessarily equipped to talk about. But I will give you one piece of advice that I have seen is very important. And the over 20 years of me doing this, right, and that is that you cannot force people to do things that they don't want to do. Especially if you're trying to make them change long term, you might push somebody to declutter throw away something in the near term, like in the short term, but their tendencies will come back, whether it's hoarding tendencies, whether it's, they just weren't ready emotionally to let go of stuff that will come back. And then you will be in the same cycle over and over unless you get to the root of the problem. So, you know, setting boundaries is really important telling your loved ones, hey, you know, these are my boundaries. But like I said, there is a whole episode where we talk about this with somebody who, who studies relationships and can guide you through that. But my tip as a pro organizer is don't force anybody do not hire somebody to help someone else that is not ready to get the help. When it comes to getting rid of their stuff, stuff has a lot of emotional value tied to it. So when they're not ready to let go of it, and you hire somebody that they don't even know, they may not be familiar with, that may make the whole problem worse. So I just don't want you to get stuck in that. So that would be my biggest advice for this question. The last question is, is there a magic organizing formula? And I chuckled. When I saw this question, it was the first time that I've gotten it, labeled like this, like, is there a magic organizing formula? And I chuckled, because I was like, I really like how that sounds, you know, just like this, like little magical, like God parent that comes in and just does it all? Okay? No, of course there is that. Here's the thing about organizing, organizing is sometimes mistaken as getting clean or getting tidy. Organizing does not mean you're clean, so that because of that, there's no just let's go and clean it all and make it sparkle. And it's all done and ready. Organizing is an action that will either need to be practice, you're not really born with it. Some of you have stronger tendencies to be more organized. Type as some of you call. And sure there is that. But to stay organized long term, it is a skill that needs to be practiced, learned and then practiced. So there is no one size fits all solution. There's no fairy godparent that comes in and just makes it all better. That's not quite how that works. Now organizers in our field and like pro organizers, we help you personalize and help you figure out something that will work for you. And that is our specialty, that is our talent. We find you know systems and create systems that will fit your very unique needs, which is something that sometimes you can't do on your own. So that's kind of like our magic, our magic formula, if you will, but it's not something that we can just bestow and it just goes away on like cleaning your stuff on like, getting rid of stuff just like that. I mean, that is just a junk Hall. And that is not organizing, that is a way to get to get more organized. But that is not organizing. So no, there is no one magic organizing formula. Some of us have created steps, like the seven steps of organizing almost anything that we have to help you. You know, break it down into smaller, smaller steps so that it just becomes easier to follow. But it's not a one size fits all type of

problem fixing here. Okay, so, So short answer no. But yes, some of us will have educational blogs and content that can help you so that you can understand it, you can embrace it, we can help you with some tips on how to get there on your own faster than if you were experimenting all over the place. So hopefully we can give you that and especially here at the organist when we know that is our hope for you to figure out a way that feels good for you that is sustainable in the long run. All right, so those are our top six questions of the year. Hope you enjoyed the this episode. A big shout out here to a couple of people really quick. This is like my academy award winning speech. So you know, feel free to stop the podcast here. But I think it is important. If you've been following us for a long time or even if you're new, just know that these are the people that make this podcast happen and the people that I'm really eternally grateful for who have supported us throughout the way and who encouraged us to keep going and encourage us to give you all of this amazing content, the first being Gaffin creative and Haley and her team who helped us out it and produce this podcast. They're just amazing. And we have Amanda Warfield who has helped me and introduced me to Haley and her team, but who has helped me with the content and just making sure that the content is what you want to hear and making sure that it flows and that it's relevant topics that are coming in, when you need them the most. So thank you so much, Amanda. And then, uh, my family and my friends, my husband, I mean, he, I think this whole process of recording a podcast is also something new for the people that are around you, especially to like, live with you, right? Because here, I am always telling him don't open the garage door, because you can hear it when I'm recording or, Hey, I'm recording between this and this hour, can you not use the internet, so make sure that the guest and I have the best audio, you know, all these things. So he is he's along on the journey with me. So thanks to him so much, and love import, and my besties who are always encouraging me giving me some new ideas on what to talk about how to talk about it. So thank you, thank you so much. Yeah, and to all of you, our awesome community that downloads the podcast that comes back and encourage us encourages us to keep going who head on over the blog post and read. You know all about our guests and about what we talked about. Thank you so much for your visits for your downloads for your encouragement. We are so excited here at the organized Flamingo to continue this podcast. For however long you'll have us and to continue helping you in your organizing journey. So with that being said, Have a great day until next week. Happy organizing. Thank you for listening to the organized and productive podcast with the organized Flamingo. If you enjoyed today's episode, I would love it if you'd leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast player. It helps with letting people know that we're here are full show notes and resources head on over to the organized flamingo.com/podcast Happy organizing

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53: Getting Organized vs. Staying Organized Explained

This week we talk about the difference between getting organized and staying organized.  Understanding each concept is important to avoid frustration and achieve long-term success in your organizing journey.  We break down the two concepts, offering insights into the initial process of setting up systems, the significance of habits in maintaining order, and the keys to success for both phases. emphasizes.

In this episode, we talk about:

  • What does getting organized mean?
  • What does staying organized mean?
  • Practical tips for both getting and staying organized,
  • Maintaining the order and system you've established over time

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Episode 001: 7 Steps to Organizing (almost) Anything

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Episode 021: Avoiding Burnout and Achieving Mindful Organization

https://theorganizedflamingo.com/21-avoiding-burnout-and-achieving-mindful-organization

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Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:00:00]:
Hey, friends. Welcome to a short and sweet episode here at the Organized and Productive podcast. I'm Stephanie, your host. And today, we are talking about the difference between getting organized and staying organized, which is 2 different styles of organizing that I think get confused. So let's talk about it so that you are set up for success. Here we go. Welcome to the Organized and Productive podcast with The Organized Flamingo. I am your host, Stephanie, a professional organizer and productivity expert.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:00:32]:
Ready to explore the right organizing and productivity solutions for you? Yeah? Well, then let's go. If you are new here, welcome. But if you're not, you probably remember me talking about this concept and just the 2 concepts, the 2 phrases in other podcast episodes in the past. They're very important to understand the difference because they are going to be what sets you up for success or one of the ways that you get set up for success. Okay? So you're probably familiar with me talking about this, but I've never made an episode about it until now, because with the new year, with the whole new you know, every time there's, like, a new beginning, forming. I see a lot of people rushing to make these really large goals, and I noticed that when they're about getting organized. They may stake a project, like, let's just get my closet Organized. That is a Productive, versus adopting new habits and adopting a whole new concept of, getting organized, which is staying organized, which is, like, a long term.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:01:40]:
And when they get confused, that people get frustrated because they're not being set up for success. So that's why I wanna make its own episode, so that every time anybody is feeling aggravated with, with their organizing journey and they're not making progress, I'll have you guys come back to this episode so that we can just go back to the fundamentals and that these 2 things are very different and you may be confusing both of them, interchangeably, you know, or, mixing both of them up and just not getting set up for success. So it's gonna be a quick and short episode. I'm gonna first talk about the what getting organized means and then what staying organized means, and then we're gonna combine them together and how to get yourself set up so that, you can pick which one is best for you according to what your end goal is. Okay? So let's talk about the first, which is what does getting organized mean. So with getting organized, it typically refers to the initial process of setting up your systems. So it's the assess if you follow the steps of our 7 steps of organizing almost anything, which just our framework here at The Organized Flamingo. It is the thing that you do with step 1, which should never get missed.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:02:56]:
It is setting up yourself for success. It is setting up the system. It's the process of. It's creating a plan. It's sorting things out to establish order, and it involves tasks like like decluttering and arranging items, things that have a beginning, a middle, and an end. If you're a project person, like a project manager or you deal a lot with projects, you are very familiar with this concept. It's a project. It has some kind of plan and a process and a way for you to keep your process and your progress in Czech.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:03:33]:
So it's not so wishy washy. Like, it's pretty straightforward. Right? And staying organized, on the other hand, is all about maintaining that order in system that you created to get organized and ensuring that that is kept up over time. It involves a lot of habits in The habit making, in the process of creating new habits. So there's a lot more mind shift. There's a lot more repetitive work so that you can start, embracing new habits. It's a lot of change. So it is a it it is The long term game, and it evolves consistently following the plans and systems that you put up in place at the beginning for The get organized, but it also means that you should be flexible enough The change it along the way.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:04:22]:
So this is where the frustration happens because and people think that they got organized. You know, they organized a shelf for your drawer or your room or your garage, and it always comes back to getting messy. And that's because you set up the system and you got it organized, but you you did not embrace some of these new habits, slowly so that they could become part of you. And the maintaining, like, a schedule and things like that when it comes to your family members, maybe your living or other people need to also adapt to these new habits. That is also in the long game. Like, The have to be okay with the new system. So this staying organized requires more thought process and a little bit more coaching, and a little bit more mind mind and mind shifting. So here are some tips on how to get yourself organized and then also stay organized.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:05:13]:
I'm gonna go over them very quickly because we are going to have a podcast episode that is all about each of these 2. So we're gonna going to give you some tips on getting organized, setting yourself up for success, like its own podcast episode, and then we will have its own podcast episode on how to stay organized long term because I I believe that they deserve that much respect, like, its own episode with its own tips. Okay. So for getting organized, some of those things that I would give you tips on is set yourself up for success. So get yourself either a project room or a project table, project area, something that is designated specifically for the project that you're trying to get more organized in. This includes your digital spaces. So this is like the holding area, the holding space. It is a space that is temporary.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:06:05]:
It won't be there forever, but it allows you to start getting used to the process and also have, like, a blank slate somewhere. It's your holding area. When I I'm recording this podcast in January and I actually had a client the other day that we started with organizing their closet. Right? And what we did is we have their guest bedroom right now is their holding area while we set up and get their their closet Organized. So this is like the staging area, the place that has the and, like the, you know, to mend or to fix bin. So that stuff that we're putting in to see and we're gonna get some pricing to see if it's even worth fixing the shoes and the accessories and the clothing or if they have the time to mend and sew the the things that they've been saying that they were going to fix. So we have that staging area there, like a bin, and then we have the and, the donate pile there. So this is like a a a place that is specific to the project, and it allows you to have a go to place to, you know, put those those items that are that you're not sure about.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:07:12]:
And you're kind of just figuring stuff out because when you're getting organized, you're not sure what the system is going to be yet. So that is one of my biggest tips. Have a holding area. If you don't have a dedicated room you can do this in, it could be a side you know, the the section of your bedroom or section of your whatever living space you're in. It doesn't have to be big. It just has to be a very designated area for the project at and, with the end goal that this won't be the forever home. This this is just while you're working on this project. The 2nd tip that I have for you to set yourself up for success while you're working on a project of organizing a specific space is to try different things.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:07:53]:
This is the area this is the time when you should be exploring different bins, different systems, different if you're a business a CRM, a different calendar system, a different planner. Try different things out, especially if you're not sure or if you have not had success with, like, a one particular system. Like, if you bought something and it has not given you success or, result the results that you're wanting. This is a good time to try something different, something new. Maybe, because of the aesthetic and because you were on social media and your favorite influencer person, movie star uses these clear bins. You got them, but for you, that is giving you visual chaos. This is a really good opportunity for you to try different things out, different bins, different systems, and see what works and what doesn't. So while in the getting organized phase, this is a great time for you to try new things.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:08:52]:
Okay, so let's move on to staying organized. And for staying organized, this is where habits, the grand parent of organizing and productivity comes in. Like, this is the the one that if you want long term change, you do need to, at some point, start to practice good and sustainable habits. For staying organized, you'll need, it you you need it to be part of your identity. And actually, this is a concept that James Clear of Atomic Habits talks about in his book. There's a few people that have talked about it in the past, but he's made it, very, you know, easy and easy to understand. But it's basically where habits become who you are. It's who you identify with.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:09:37]:
And if it's something that you wanted to be part of you, you you, in the long run, want people to identify you with this particular, new organizing systems, let's say. Let's say, you know, for your closet. Like, you want that to be part of you. Like, you wanna be The and person that always knows and has something to wear or is never late. And, therefore, for that to happen, you need to have an organized closet so that you can quickly getting in and out of whether you're a fashionable person or not, you just need to get out of your closet faster than you have in the past, and that is now a new habit that you need to embrace. Right? It's like it's very tied to your everyday being and identity. So that is a really important piece of it, which I will go into more detail in its own episode, but habits, very important. Think about it as your identity.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:10:30]:
My biggest tip that I have for you to set yourself up for success if you want to stay organized long term is to be flexible and to document as much as possible in your journey. There is going to be either habits or actions that do not feel right. Make sure you write those things down as a reminder that when you tried The thing, that object, that new system, that new product, it did not work for you, it didn't feel good, and these are things that you will need as a reminder in your notes. So when you go back to make a final decision over what will help you stay organized long term. You don't keep coming back to that and, to that one thing or product or service or whatever it may be over and over, and every time you use it, it just sets you up for failure. And I think a lot of people forget because visualization is very important in our world today, so then we we wanna buy the the pretty things. And sometimes, the pretty things are not what we need to stay organized long term. Sometimes there's there's quite a bit that goes on behind the scenes that people don't visually see that are equally, if not more, important to set you up for success.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:11:47]:
So think about the things that you have tried. Keep track of those things so that you don't come back to make the same you know, do do over you know, buy it again and make the same decisions Organized decisions over and over. Maybe not bad decisions, but that you just keep making that same purchase over and over and every time you try it, it doesn't work. This comes very much into play for all of you who, you know, make those really big goals of I want to be more organized, like, in my calendar and not overbook myself. And you keep buying The same type of calendar system or planner just because it's pretty or because you were at the store, at the local, you know, big box store, and you were shopping, and it was just looked so pretty. And then you bought it, and now you have, like, 20 different planners, you know, in your in your closet that you never use. And I'm chuckling because I've been there as well, by the way. But when you do that and you and if you don't write it down and keep some kind of journal of the things that haven't worked.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:12:44]:
You will then come back to it over and over again forgetting, that those things did not work. So that's one of my biggest, tips, my quick tips. Just keep track of it. Keep a journal of the things that did not work so that you can, have some list, ongoing lists that you can refer back to, so that way, you don't try those things again and you do try new things that you maybe were not aware that existed. Okay, so that is my quick take on getting organized versus staying organized. Don't confuse them. No. Don't mix them up together.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:13:15]:
They do work very well together. They in theory, and feeds into the other, so getting organized will eventually Mary itself into the staying organized. That's what sets you up for success. But then getting organized will also need you to be flexible enough to try new things as time and new chapters, start to happen in your life. Right? So they will eventually become and, but for for the purposes of setting yourself up for success, think of them as 2 different actions and make plans accordingly. So that way you're not overwhelmed and you feel frustrated that, you know, that your habits are just not sticking because maybe you're just you're just doing a project. Also, as a side note, actually, you know, I was gonna I'll go into detail in the in its own episodes for each of these, but this is one of the reasons people hire us. Like, for there's The difference between somebody doing something for you and then you wanting to learn how to do it for yourself.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:14:18]:
Self. That's also the difference between when you hire an organizer that does it for you and if you're feeling frustrated about the fact that you can't sustain that action, the way that you you know, when they left, it may be because you're just doing Productive. Right? Like, The make it the beginning, middle, and end, and you are not being coached to do it yourself. So mention that if that's something that you would like to learn and then start learning creating those habits so that you can do it yourself in the long term. So that's it for today. We will see you next week. As always, let us know if this was helpful. I hope it was, and I will see you next and with The Organized Flamingo.

Stephanie Y. Deininger [00:15:03]:
If you enjoyed today's episode, I would love it if you'd leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast player. It helps with letting people know that we're here. For full show notes and resources, head on over to the Organized flamingo.com/podcast. Happy organizing.